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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. I. LEWIS LIBBY, also known as "SCOOTER LIBBY"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mc mark, Jan 18, 2007.

  1. gifford1967

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    Not surprisingly, basso and tj are still stuck on stupid. Otherwise, they would realize that Gen Hayden's, (current head of the CIA), certification that Valerie Plame was a covert CIA agent at the time that Novak wrote his column, definitively answers the question of her undercover status. Of course, for them to admit this they would have to possess a shred of intellectual honesty or integrity.


    I won't hold my breath.
     
  2. El_Conquistador

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    Can anyone tell me how this investigation moves our nation forward towards progress in anything? The liberals' hope is that this story takes on a life of its own, the press runs with it, and enough public pressure is put on someone for a scandal to be born. They are trying the same thing with Alberto Gonzalez. Pathetic partisan crying if you ask me. The nation's public servants should be spending their time productively, not on a fictional witch hunt where no crime was committed. Valerie Plame's desk job isn't worth this much time and resources. Next.
     
  3. basso

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    i'm saying, as did she, that she doesn't know the legal definition of "covert."
     
  4. Deckard

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    So you're saying she doesn't know what the meaning of covert is. A career employee of the CIA, testifying under oath. Every time I think you've reached rock bottom, basso, you find a new depth.



    D&D. Dumb and Dumber.
     
  5. rimrocker

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    That's hardly what I said. And you protest so much, even in the face of insurmountable facts, that perhaps you should revisit "De Nile" portions of this thread.
     
  6. rimrocker

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    Again, as has been shown countless times in this thread already, that's because there's no legal definition of "covert" that's relevent to her NOC job. Quit trying to be deliberately obtuse.
     
  7. rimrocker

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    Obviously it is or else Rove would have not declared it "fair game."
     
  8. basso

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    that's exactly what i'm saying, and she said it as well: she does not know what the legal definition of covert is. and since the referral was for release of classified information, not disclosure of a covert agent, as covered by the IIPA, it's pretty clear that the CIA new there was no law broken by revealing her name. further, unless you're alleging that Fitz is also a part of the vast right wing conspiracy, it's clear he also knows this to be the case, since he's know for a couple of years that armitage was the uber-leaker, and yet has filed no charges.
     
  9. El_Conquistador

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    Basso is not saying it. SHE is saying it.

    PAY ATTENTION
     
  10. rimrocker

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    So, the IIPA is the standard by which we should measure the release of NOCs? Please. Of course a law (or several) was broken and I can't believe I have to bring up Al Capone yet again. And perhaps Fitzgerald couldn't prove an IIPA because Scooter lied and obstructed justice.

    And another thing... as I have pointed out before, Armitage was not the uber-leaker. The first time an administration official told a member of the press about Plame's status was when Scooter told Judith Miller.

    Your facts are wrong, your interpretation of those facts are wrong, your knowledge of how Government information is handled is wrong, and you are, obviously, wrong.

    I take it you missed the part of the hearing where Waxman declared he would hold the record open to prove VT had given incorrect statements. In other words, VT has a chance to correct the record before she is officially on record of lying to Congress.
     
  11. rimrocker

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    You two obviously pay no attention to other posts or you would know that "covert" is a word not used by the CIA nad had no legal meaning for Plame.
     
  12. Sishir Chang

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    You know a lot of people were saying the same thing in regard to the impeachment of Bill Clinton.
     
  13. Sishir Chang

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    :confused:
    Except Basso says "I'm saying.."
     
  14. basso

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    BINGO!!! so this entire issue has been a red herring. the underlying point is that no law has been broken. full stop.
     
  15. rimrocker

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    Read the thread before you put words in my mouth... it will keep you from looking like an idiot.

    She was a NOC, not "covert."

    Once again...

    and...

    Full stop? Sorry basso, but wishing doesn't make it so.

    As digby says...
     
  16. Sishir Chang

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    A question for Basso:

    Since Plame has said under oath that she was covert should she be tried for perjury?
     
  17. basso

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    please provide the statute that was violated by "outing" plame.
     
  18. rimrocker

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    Why don't you ask the guy who said this...

    Revealing classified information is illegal, alerts our enemies, and endangers our country.

    --George W. Bush
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/12/20051217.html

    Or feel free to Google the US Code.

    Take responsibility for your own education!
     
  19. basso

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    so you can't name the statute, correct?

    i agree w/ W, btw, which is why i wonder why Joe Wilson has not been charged.
     
  20. KingCheetah

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    basso please define 'is' ... thanks.
     

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