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United Healthcare CEO murdered in NYC midtown

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Dec 4, 2024.

  1. Astrodome

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    The wife is typically a suspect at this point of the investigation. I wonder if she was on the phone with him before leaving the hotel.
     
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  2. fchowd0311

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    I'm sure he is leaving behind a son or daughter or father or mother who will feel pain and suffering from the loss of a loved one and that sucks. Its a horrible feeling to lose a loved one.

    But it's hard to generate sympathy towards a executive profiting off of health insurance dying. Like I struggle with it. Is it a character flaw within me? Probably.
     
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  3. Nook

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    Maybe it is a flaw? IDK

    His wife said that he had received death threats "probably over denied coverage".

    It is a very tricky scenario all the way around. I am sure this man did not think he was doing anything other than running a business - and someone else would just take his place, but his company also had the life and death outcome of people hanging in the balance and the fact he received death threats and had no security when he is worth a half billion dollars tells me that perhaps he didn't really grasp the seriousness of it all.... everyone's loss, from him - his family - the shooter and all the people that lost loved ones from denial of coverage decisions.... some areas should not be the domain of profit margins and CEO's.
     
  4. Astrodome

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    I mean, it's a job. There are millions of people that profit off of health insurance. Not many people would pass on the job he held.
     
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    Many people work for health insurance companies because they need to afford their mortgage payment or rent payment. A executive of a health insurance company isn't in it for meeting the needs of his or her family's basic needs like paying utilities or rent. They are there to extract as much wealth as possible at the expense of a predatory health insurance system
     
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  6. Nook

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    He was worth a half billion dollars supposedly.

    I agree with you - there is a line of people that would take his job.

    The "it's just business" defense has worked well in the West for a long time - but not always, and as more people struggle, you will see more people either celebrate the fall and death of these types of people or at a minimum say that they understand why they were assassinated. It has happened in other parts of the world, it has happened in the past in the USA but the large number of rural and farmers that were screwed kept the violence local - we now live in a global society.
     
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    Lots of assumptions in here.

    We don't even have a suspect yet, much less a motive.
     
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    Saw the video on Reddit. Looked like a professional hit.
     
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    Someone had to know in advance he would be there that early in the morning.
     
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    Maybe, but I don't think so -- looks like an amateur who did some research but not a professional. Had to rack the gun after each shot (biggest tell), didn't pick up brass, picked a well-lit and camera'd location, took him a few shots... I will, however, grant you that there are various grades of "professional" -- i.e. both Steph Curry and Jock Landale are professional basketball players. Vincent Vega + Jules Winnfield as compared to Anton Chigurh.
     
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    My initial thought was how is that possible?

    This was my second thought. Evidently had to be a long range shot

    At this point everything is suspect
    Dis/Mis information

    A Super Profession leaving amatuer clue to throw us off the scent
    We are in the age of 007!!!

    Rocket River
     
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    Some people might say denial of life saving health coverage to maximize return on investment is a form of an assassination.
     
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    I saw a chart earlier. I have no idea if it is accurate. It showed UHC had more denials than any other major insurance company, by a wide margin.
     
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    They are notorious for it at least. My brother's software company he works for was about to switch to United and his coworkers were freaking out and management and executives at his company actually listened. So they are well known for their claim denials to where employees will freak out if their employer decides to switch to United.
     
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    Here it is
     
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    in America, you have plausible deniability as long as you don't directly cause things. If you deny many people medical coverage, possibly frivolously, you statistically know that many people are doing to die from what you are doing. Are you a murderer though? No, since you did not directly kill anybody.
     
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    They're awful both as an insurer and an employer. I knew tons of people who worked for them (as they were headquartered in Minneapolis) and I never heard a good thing about them. The worst part is that UHG employees were forced into high deductible UHG plans. They gave their employees some of the crappiest insurance you could get for a big company.
     
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    That is a LOT of people affected and pissed off at this dude from his own employees to those medically insured by his company. That is a large pool of potential suspects.

    Wouldn't be surprised if he also had enemies within his own family. Seems like the type of guy who would screw over anyone.
     

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