We're going to have us an ol' fasion barn burnin! Moore Film to Screen Near Bush's Hometown WACO, Texas - Michael Moore's documentary about President Bush is finally coming to a theater near him. A month after its nationwide release, "Fahrenheit 9/11" is to open Friday at a theater in Waco, about 20 miles west of Bush's Crawford ranch. The film also is to be shown next month by peace activists in Crawford. Skip Londos, founder of Friends of Peace, said filmmaker Michael Moore's staff Monday gave permission to show the movie as a fund-raiser for the Crawford Peace House, a few miles from Bush's ranch, the Waco Tribune-Herald reported in its online edition. The documentary has brought in $93.8 million. But so far, theaters in Waco — the largest city closest to Bush's spread — have not shown Moore's film about Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq (news - web sites) after the 2001 terrorist attacks. Since the film opened June 25, the closest place Waco residents could see the movie was in Temple, about 35 miles south. The date for the Crawford showing has not been set. Londos said people who show a Republican voter's registration card can watch for free. Others will be asked to make an $8 donation to the Crawford Peace House. "We don't want to play it just for people who already know what it says and already agree with it," he told the newspaper. Moore contacted the newspaper after a column last month pointed out his documentary wasn't showing in Waco, and urged the filmmaker to send a copy. Londos said his group might show the film outdoors, possibly using a nearby barn as a screen, to accommodate a larger audience. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040720/ap_on_en_mo/people_michael_moore_7
Finally saw it over the weekend. What a joke. Moore jumps all over the place failing to make any kind of consistent argument other than "George Bush/rich white people are bad." I loved how at the beginning he tries to paint the 2000 election as a landside victory for Gore, showing him rack up state after state. Of course he fails to mention that Bush won 30 states to Gore's 20 (+D.C.) Propoganda. Yawn.
It doesn't matter if you refuse to believe that some people will do anything to hold on to power. You can't refute that. It exist. Especially in politics among the elite. It's not about "rich white" per say. It's about "those in power. whoever they may be." It's always happened throughout history. They are not "angels" like you think they are. And they are not "devils" either. They are men! Complete with all the temptations that comes with that; greed, power, influence and doing most anything to protect that position.
Actually, in many cases it was about the rich. He talks about the evil tax cuts for the rich and the evil companies that are making money in Iraq, again the rich. The people in power that he spends the whole movie complaining about are the rich. He isn't saying anything bad about the leaders of organizations like the NAACP, NOW, etc., even though they have a good deal of power. He certainly doesn't discriminate based on color in his rich bashing though. He has plenty to say about the Saudis. He does bring out the race card when talking about recruitment though, when he shows an all-black group of basketball players and asks if any have family in the military. The only way it could have been more obvious what he was saying would be to have a lone white guy in the group that said he didn't have family in the military.
Having power and money is one thing... How one uses their power and money is another thing. So, in the end, it's all up to the organization, country or person. That's where the subjective "evil" or "good" comes into question. The difficult part is whether or not you agree with how power and money is used at that particluar time. So, this pursuit of power has never changed throughout history. It's doesn't have to be tied to race. It's just happens that we are in that situation right now (Moore's film happens to point towards a particular group in today's setting.). In another time and place it could have been a different group. Ancient China, Rome, Greece, Briton, Japan, or America. It doesn't matter. There will always be a class struggle. Always! And those that have the power, sooner or later will abuse that power. It's contagious if you've lived that world; it's intoxicating! You feel like no one can touch you!
It ain't a documentary, so you need to calm down. It exist! It aaaaaaaaaallllllliiiiiivvvvvveeeeeeee!!!!! Mongo like candy.
No matter what YOU call it, it really doesn't matter. Awe poor baby. They talked bad about your precious wittle prezident! My prewecious!
Who was "in bed" with the Saudis? Only Bush?? It's called foreign policy, every President has one... The only observation I have on any of this is that the box-office numbers on this "film," and whatever money it brings in, in no way makes every viewer any more anti-Bush than the amount of tickets sold to "The Passion of the Christ" viewers instantly made the nation more pro-Jesus. It may bolster that crowd, but to the educated it sounds like a joke... at least from all the reviews. And no, I won't be seeing "Farfromtruth 9/11." The truth is found in the "whole" news reel... not just on the cutting room floor.
There's a HUGE difference between foreign policy and having had your businesses saved by Saudi money and your family being in business with Saudi's. How old are you if you can't make that distinction?
Ooopsie... made a boo-boo... Judging from that response... I'd say you're a middle-aged school teacher that's sexually frustrated, which is generated by the boys in your class that say their mommy and daddy are voting Bush, and that they didn't like Clinton very much. You of course loved him for that... "Dude, he got some 'tang in oval office," you might've said to yourself, perhaps even colleagues. He became your hero forever. And the frustration is that you don't score, unless we're talkin' doobies or beer. 12? Twelve + years voting maybe. That would make me about 7 when I signed up here. Riiiiight.... FYI, I'm 31, married with 2 children, have voted Democrat during every election since I could vote. Just not for the position we're debating. I've never been a straight ticket voter. Not that shallow in my thought process. Perhaps you cannot say the same? Seems like you only vote left. I'm just sick of everyone thinking that Bush is so evil or is such a conspirator. And any chance to put some mud back on the Democrat side, on this board mind you, is just fun. It gets way more reaction than vice versa. Revisionist history... Is that what you teach at Clinton Elementary, RMTex?
double oopsie Little area turnout for anti-Bush film link to article By Janet Grafe Seguin Gazette Published July 21, 2004 “Fahrenheit 9/11,” a movie that has grossed $94 million and ranked No. 5 in the box office last weekend, flopped in its Seguin debut. The controversial movie, which is openly anti-Bush and faults his decisions following the events of Sept. 11, was a business disappointment for Rick Uhlhorn, King Ranger Theater manager. “On a scale of one to 10, it was a three,” Uhlhorn said. “We took it for two weeks, and would have only run it one if we could.” Uhlhorn said while he did not see the whole film, he thought it was good for people to see alternative viewpoints. “You have to take it with a grain of salt, but there was a lot of food for thought in the bits I saw of it,” Uhlhorn said. Jan Koehne, Guadalupe County Republican Party chairman, said as far as she knew, the movie was a non-issue for area Republicans. “The movie hasn’t come up in the [Republican] meetings I’ve been to lately,” Koehne said. “If Republicans want to see the movie, it’s a free world. But I won’t spend my money to perpetuate something I don’t believe in.” Koehne said she felt the movie showed disrespect for the office of the president. “I don’t mind people being anti-Bush,” Koehne said. “That’s their right. But whether the office is held by a Republican or a Democrat, he’s my commander in chief. If we don’t take a stand somewhere and bring back respect for not only our people in office, but also for our police and firefighters, it will tear down our political process.” Theater employee Kristal Ramirez, 16, saw the movie and said it changed the way she thought about President Bush. Although she has concerns about the war in Iraq, before seeing the movie, she had positive feelings about Bush as a fellow Texan. Now she’s not sure and feels more neutral. However, many people in Seguin didn’t care how popular or how thought-provoking the movie was in other places. They made their vote known by keeping their money in their pockets. “Nobody came to see it,” Uhlhorn said.
Drop the crackpipe and slowly back away, Junior. If you want to judge me, judge away. I couldn't care less what you think about me. I've never been a straight ticket voter either. Didn't even vote for Al Gore in 2000. And no, I'm not a schoolteacher, thank you. But it certainly sounds like you have been enjoying yourself on this board. So, I beg the question...why would someone who has voted "Democrat during every election since I could vote" post Republican party-line drivel as you on this BBS do with such glee? Is your middle name "Sybil"? Perhaps a therapy session is in order! And, as far as "revisionist history" goes, after the changing reasons for invading and occupying Iraq, who exactly is practicing revisionist history? Spin away, I-schlock-it!
You're married with 2 children and not sexually frustrated? Wow! That sounds contrived to me! Let me ask you this? You say that you've voted Democrat every election in the past 12 years, but then say that you've never been a "straight ticket voter." So, I guess that means that you only voted democrat for presidents, but not the rest? Do you vote republican for senate and house, but "straight" for the prez? Sounds straight ticket to me. Ok maybe not technically. But still! As far as "conspire" and "evil" in relation to Bush. I'm not sure what people would have to do to be considered "conspirators" or "evil" in YOUR EYES. But it must be a lot. What indicators do we see? Maybe it's the nature of politics which forces them to lie. Maybe it's their position of power. Maybe it's their use of "Christianity' to justify their cause. Maybe it's their grand vision of the world. We don't have to agree with it. Hmmm? Thus, those terms above may fit our view of him just perfectly because of the things he does and says. We're not talking about a caricature in a movie. We're talking about a real man. So, stop romanticizing those terms and bring them down to earth then maybe you'll see what we really mean. Now, of course, if you agree with what Bush does and says you're not going to think he's "evil" or a "conspirator." Because that would mean that you *think* just like him. Shudder.... By the way, you *reek* a well-meaning, although deceived, republican. You have very little democratic views. It just doesn't seem like you've been on both sides. I mean, if you want to defend George H.W. fine. Or McCain (for senator). Or Reagan, no prob. But, George W. Bush? Are you blind? Can't you see the difference?
“I don’t mind people being anti-Bush,” Koehne said. “That’s their right. But whether the office is held by a Republican or a Democrat, he’s my commander in chief. If we don’t take a stand somewhere and bring back respect for not only our people in office, but also for our police and firefighters, it will tear down our political process.” Reading inbetween the lines, it was OK to be a Clinton hata since Clinton was the Anti-Christ. But hating a Republican CiC is an entirely other thing, epsecially since GWB is only a small fraction of a screwup viz-a-viz the Anti-Christ.
