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Uncle Bob praises Clowney.

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Raven, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. endoftheworld

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    Apologies, never saw the whole post
     
  2. Remii

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    Give Boldin his credit... Because you see how good Flacco looked this year without him...
     
  3. SamCassell

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    I'm leery of any statistic that discusses generations of teams in different eras, when someone is trying to extrapolate that to today's teams, in today's system. The 78 Steelers and the 84 Bears wouldn't have been the same defenses with today's rules. Sounds like we're on the same page in that respect.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah Flacco was always going to be a flash in the pan. He was an average QB who had 3 great games with tons of good luck. If the Broncos make the easy interception rather than falling down on their face on that hail mary pass then the Ravens never have a chance.

    With Kaepernick, Flacco, and now Wilson being QB's in the SB in the last 2 years, the argument that you need an "elite" QB shouldn't ever be made again.
     
  5. Remii

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    Well in this era... New England, NY, and Pittsburgh hold 7 rings and they were defensive oriented teams. And that's not including Tampa and Baltimore. And Seattle has the #1 defense and has a chance to win a super bowl this year.

    One thing that has stood the test of time through any era is quarterbacks don't like pressure.

    But what I do believe this is the era of the wide receiver. That's who these new rules really benefit IMO.
     
  6. Remii

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    I would love to have an "elite" quarterback _ but that's like trying to find a unicorn.
     
  7. SamCassell

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    The 2011 Giants were the 25th ranked defensive team. The 2012 Ravens had a middle of the pack defense. The Patriots have had a good offense with Tom Brady that's put up some amazing point totals through the years. I'll give you Pittsburg, who in 2008 were the last #1 defense to win a title.
     
  8. pariah

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    This.
     
  9. Old Man Rock

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    Hyped is the keyword there. Bridgewater boringly better.
     
  10. tmacfor35

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    The success rate of QB's drafted outside the first round is horrendous. Unicorn maybe, but haven't you been calling for a QB in the second or third? Well sir, than if that's the case, that's like trying to find a pig who can fly.

    Nobody is trading a great QB to anyone. This will have to be done through the draft.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    The only people who fool themselves into thinking the Texans are about to get an elite QB any time soon are those who are head over heels in love with Bridgewater, I think pretty much everyone else knows that the Texans are more likely going to get a decent QB and should probably try to go the San Francisco/Seattle route of winning via defense.
     
  12. endoftheworld

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    Seattle and San Fran took years to build the defenses that they have now

    Good qb play could make us competitive over night
     
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    It’s real. RT @PSchrags 4. Clowney is the big talk among executives, not Manziel. Clowney-Watt is a scary—and quite possible—duo.

    — Dan Kadar (@MockingTheDraft) January 22, 2014
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    And it's not likely that we'll have significantly better QB production than we had last year no matter what.....all the more reason to spend the top pick on something to help the defense out then trying to find a decent QB later on to play the Kaepernick/Wilson/Flacco role.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    For good reason, Clowney is the prize gem of this draft class and I'd think most GM's would know better than Manziel.
     
  16. endoftheworld

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    Those types of qbs just don't come out of no where.

    We don't have the personnel on defense to be afforded that opportunity.

    When Harbaugh took over San Fran, the had the personnel in place
     
  17. endoftheworld

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    Won't be surprised if Manziel falls out of the 1st
     
  18. sugrlndkid

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    The more and more film i watch on him...man he is a big big dude...the Texans have a really hard decision. I initially thought trading back might be the answer, but I think you have to take either him or Bridgewater if you decide to go the QB route...
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah they kind of do "come out of nowhere", QB's like that aren't highly prized because they won't ever become top tier guys.

    If we don't have the defensive personnel on the team, then shouldn't we spend to get them? Isn't that pretty much what i'm suggesting? Don't waste a top pick on a QB who isn't going to be top notch when your defense doesn't have all the personnel they need to make your team a legit contender. Picking a QB just because he's the best of a meh class is exactly how bad teams stay bad.
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    I won't be surprised no matter what happens. If he's correctly graded by all teams, he's a 3rd or 4th round pick but I always expect one team to be stupid and reach.
     

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