So you take Teddy here. Can't be writing anyone off, by worrying about their durability in the future.
The thing is the exact opposite is true. Manziel almost never got hit in the pocket. Yeah he got running for yards downfield but standing in the pocket with poise ready to deliver and take the hit, nope not Manziel. Manziel doesn't know what is to stay in the pocket and deliver your pass knowing you're about to get pummeled and smashed like a crash test dummy. He doesn't know that because the minute/second Manziel saw that was going to happen he quit looking downfield and started scrambling. It's ridiculous to say Manziel took that kind of punishment because he didn't Yeah he got hits running but even those hits were never the kind of hits Bridgewater took because Manziel was so elusive and could see them coming and slide or move in a way to lessen the blow. Not the same thing. The other thing is TB is slim but he is solid, doesn't appear to have any fat on him. And he is strong, I've seen him multiple times stiff are lineman and linebackers off of him. Do not mistake the size of his frame for his strength.
Currently, my choice would be Clowney. I'm still reserving judgement on Bridgewater until I see his official height, weight, and hand size at the combine. He's the only QB I'd consider at #1 though.
Charlie has also said they tried to trade the pick but no one wanted it. I think it's going to boil down to what Romeo says. McNair already sounds like Clowney is the guy he wants... Romeo's endorsement might be all they are waiting for.
C'mon remmi ur really think crennel will be the one to make the texans to draft clowney. The texans will draft a QB with that pick. They will draft the top rated one after they have there combines and interviews
No where did I say MAKE. But Romeo is the most decorated guy in the room amongst the coaching staff and has been a part of putting together some great defenses (Kansas City for example). The coaches are the ones who evaluate the players that they intend to draft and if Romeo says he thinks they should draft Clowney _ you don't think they will take his advice under consideration...??? And again _ O'BRIEN IS A DEFENSIVE GUY, he played defense (the same position as Clowney) so he could possibly want Clowney as well. You and others swear up and down the Texans will draft a QB. You guys are so positive. I learned my lesson the last two times they had the #1 pick in the draft so I'm not a confident with what they will do with this pick as others.
Wade came here in his first year and help drafted J.J. and YOU PEOPLE give him all the credit in the world for it. But now you trying to say Romeo want have any input. Is it because he's black...??? You guys keep thinking the guy in the room with 3 super bowl rings won't have any input and are won't be listed to. You keep thinking they won't ask him what he thinks about Clowney.
Who's you people? Most of us have are own mind on here. Of course Romeo will have input. It would be stupid not ask him. That doesn't just because he loves Clowney and he probably will, that we are drafting Clowney. Input doesn't mean final say. Of course if BOB sees nothing to warrant 1st overall pick in Bridgewater(like you do) than that's a different story. My opinion is he will see what I see and much more and draft Bridgewater and a defensive guy like Martin or Trevor Reilly in a later round.
You people is for whoever the shoe fits. I don't know how Romeo will feel about Clowney one way are another. Maybe he will like him, maybe he won't but I bet his opinion will go along way with McNair, Smith, and O'Brien whatever that may be.
The bills had almost 60 sacks this yr, how many games did they win? They chiefs were 9-0 and didn't allow more than 17pts. They faced manning ,rivers,and luck twice and gave up an average of 30+ ppg. JJ Watt is one of the best players in football, who would trade their qb for him? Tell me what team would give up a top 15 qb for watt? I'm pretty all of the qbs you can get for watt are average or below average.
I like your posts and you are a part of the reason I've become a Bridgewater believer (plus the videos, other reports, stats, and watching that Miami game). I like Manziel too, but I think he has a lot to learn, especially with reading zone defenses. I don't think he's the best choice for the Texans and has a risk associated with him for a variety of reasons. All that said, you are either using hyperbole, or haven't watched all of the A&M games, or both when you make the statement above. You lost a lot of credibility there. As elusive as Manziel was, he still got hit a ton in the pocket. A&M had a great line, and there were times when he had forever to throw, but he took his damn time too. The escape plays made Sportscenter, but he was sacked 19 times and got hit INSIDE THE POCKET plenty more soon after a release. You wrote "almost never got hit inside the pocket" and that's just completely wrong. This doesn't mean he should be drafted #1 and he still has plenty of short-comings, but he definitely has experience with the passing-with-poise-before-being-crushed trait.
Flacco, Kaepernick, and Russell have all made it to the super bowl in the past two years and none of them are top 15 QBs, but all 3 of those QBs have a "J.J. Watt" type guy on their defense. So no need to consider trading J.J.
Oh, really? Who was they JJ Watt type on the Ravens last year? Are you saying the ravens would've even gotten to sb if flacco didn't play out of his mind? U think 49ers come back and beat falcons with avg qb play in the game? My point was, your qb better have elite talent and capable of playing elite in the playoffs. When everyone drools over clowney watt combo,I brought up Buffalo as an example. I can also bring up the rams as another. I can also look at how the redskins last yr made the playoffs despite have the 30th ranked defense. They had the same defense,qb struggled,they fnished with the 2nd worse record in nfl. Qb play matter way more than de play. If you grade a guy as a franchise calibe qb,yet he might be 3rd or 4th best talent,he trumps everyone else.
Stat wise Kaepernick and Russell are not. They hardly even throw the ball compared to other QBs. And Flacco definitely isn't. But nice response from you though. I read some of your other post and this is on the same level.
T-Suggs and Ngata are beast. And a serious argument can be made that Boldin carried Flacco and not vice versa. Great example using the 49ers. You just need a QB who can make plays and he doesn't have to be considered the best coming into the draft. Kaepernick was a 2nd round pick and Locker, Gabbert, Ponder, and Dalton were all drafted before him. And they drafted Smith that year with their 1st pick.
Maybe a little hyperbole. And I admit while I saw almost ever Aggie game (as a manziel fan only) I wasn't analyze them until the very end because I wasn't planning on the Texans being in a position to draft him. But just look at this game against Arkansas. Not once did he get hit after throwing the ball. Yeah he got hit running of course and he did get sacked once trying to scramble but not once did he get hit after throwing the ball. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/yck6sfl4JBU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> All of his passes in the pocket were with little or no pressure and mostly none. When he got pressure he scrambled. I am not knocking him for doing this. They put up 45 points and won the game. And a lot of the reason he isn't hit or sacked is because he is so elusive. It's just compare to one of Bridgewater's games and you'll see he gets hit more often and harder on a far more frequent basis. Just look at the Houston game that everyone wants to say Bridgewater sucked. He gat hit after the pass at least 6 times and sacked another 3. He threw more downfield in tighter pockets in less attempts that Manziel did in his game. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/IQKN-F6fk6I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Again not putting down Manziel for not getting hit. It's just if someone wants to say Manziel is better at taking hits and getting back up I see no evidence of that. And then there's this. By the way Bridgewater threw a perfect pass on that play and get's up and proceeds to carve up the 2nd ranked defense in the country after that. If that doesn't show his toughness what does. Of course Johnny Manziel has his tough hit too. But it's running not after a pass and he doesn't get up and win the game. Do you really want your QB doing this.
