Younger girls can easily pass for older, however, once you start talking to them, you should be able to tell the difference. Providing it's true, maybe Deshawn was all excited after escorting her to the Jr. High dance. ------------------
Yep. Just look at Spree's career. That really sent his livelyhood to hell in a handbasket. Until he signed with NY. He he he..... ------------------ My doctor says I am bipolar. I am going to get a second opinion. I have never had intimate desires for polar bears.
While it is 'just' a statutory rape charge (which implies consent) and Stevenson himself is, what?, only 5 years older than the girl, that doesn't mean what he did wasn't still wrong. We have statutory rape laws for a reason -- kids that young have been deemed off-limits; consent, lying about her age and all the other stuff, while relevant in prosecution and sentencing, is irrelevant to the commission of the sin. In statutory rape, the child is always the victim, even when they are the instigator of the crime. As for Stevenson, he has a good a lawyer (I'm sure). He'll probably get off and serve a 30-day sentence on the weekends or something. But, if he is acquitted, I can see Utah trading him. Unfortunately, he duplicates Mobley's role. ------------------ RealGM Gafford Art Artisan Cakes
You can't blame David Wesley for the Bobby Phills accident Pinetree. He didn't put a gun to Phills head and make him race, so no what he did wasn't worse then DeShawn in my eyes. The only way it could havebeen worse was if Wesley was in an accident and seriously injured or killed somebody. ------------------ "Win if you can, lose if you must but always cheat!" - Jesse Ventura
When it comes to matters of criminal cases, I do not automatically believe what prosecutors or police or media say. There have been at least a hundred persons released from prison over the past few years because DNA evidence proved that the DA, the police, the witnesses, the judge, the jury, and the appellate courts were all wrong. I do not favor statutory rape laws because, in my opinion, it is a crime which is almost never reported, seldom prosecuted, and, like sodomy laws, is used to prosecute selected individuals. It also fails to recognize the differences in the development of individuals. I find it sadly ironic that a person can be certified as an adult for committing a crime, but not certified as an adult at the same age for consenting to sex. Just because a law is passed does not mean that it is a good one, or that it is routinely prosecuted, or that it should be prosecuted. In some states, it remains against the law for a woman to perform oral sex upon a man, or the reverse. So, NO, I do not like the statutory rape laws, as I do not like drug prohibition laws, or laws regarding sexual conduct in general. All have a common thread of Big Brotherism. The state always knows better than the individual, and invariably, it is with a church lady mentality that such laws are enforced. ------------------ Some days you eat the bear. Some days the bear eats you.
More to the story...There is a recording of Stevenson confessing to the girl's mother... http://espn.go.com/nba/news/2001/0619/1216112.html Also the 2 families have known each other for 4 years. He had to have known her age. Again, providing the reported information is true. ------------------
ummmm.... i think you all are missing a key part to this story: so he was 16 and she was 10...yuk. or worse off, he waited until now until he's busted her ass. oh yea, here's another jewel from stevenson: not bright, deshawn. not bright at all. recorded convo admitting to sex and contributing alcohol to a minor. oh yea, you're a minor too, you fuqing idiot. remember that post i had about acquiring deshawn? nevermind. dude's not bright on or off the court.
He might of ****ed that 14 year old but now he is going to get ****ed himself. This is hilarious right here. Both couples had sex while a former high school teammate of the suspects, Richard Millsap, watched. ------------------ "Break off the block like Maurice Green" --- Steve Francis President of the Moochie Norris fan club.
The new alleged facts make this a truly disgusting story. He gets a 14 year old drunk (albeit she admits she "willingly" got drunk) and then commits statutory rape. ------------------
Thanks for the latest info, Bob. He's in deep doo-doo now. Assuming the info is correct, he knew her age, he took her to a hotel, he got her drunk, and had sex in front of another friend, who watched. If all this is proven true, he will probably be convicted of at least one felony and serve some prison time. The tape hangs him, and cuts off his ability to otherwise defend himself. He's in big, big trouble. His career may be over, and probably should be. It will be interesting to see how this impacts the drafting of high school kids. ------------------ Some days you eat the bear. Some days the bear eats you.
I don't see why this would necessarily kill his career. For one, tape or not, a good lawyer could still get him off. For two, he's a kid who showed a lot of promise -- if he can really play after prison, a team will sign him. ------------------ RealGM Gafford Art Artisan Cakes
Aren't circumstances taken into account with respect to statutory rape? For example, wouldn't an 18 year old with a 16 year old be treated differently than a 30 year old with a 13 year old. ------------------
The guy has to be more than 3 years older than the girl (and she has to be younger than 17) for statutory rape (in Texas). ------------------ I'm so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in me for a month. I am so hip that I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis.
Juan, it may not kill his career, but he is a very young and unestablished player in a league which is painfully aware of its public image. If you are Stern and you want to draw a line, this is a good opportunity to do it without dealing with an established player. I disagree with your conclusion that a good lawyer can get him off. His taped confession to the mother will be admissible. Because there is the possibility that the league will make an example of him, and that teams will be reluctant to sign on for so much trouble, this could end his career. He ain't Spree and he ain't Mason. And yes to Bob, the ages are certainly a factor. If he's 18 and she's 15, tough case. If he's 19 and she's 14, not so tough to make. But if he's 20, she's 14, he knows it, he knows her family, AND he gets her drunk, it is a lay down case. Unless he marries her with the parents' consent. Then the case is over. ------------------ Some days you eat the bear. Some days the bear eats you.
I think that the statutory rape laws are some of the worst in the country. If a teenage girl is ready by 14, then it should only be the business of her, her parents, and her partner. Leave the law out of it. The age should be 13, not 16, 17, or 18. ------------------ Protrolls.com! RITQAIOCLHTPFOTFWBPTD
Pine, He is just a kid, and statutory rape is a crime that is sometimes difficult to see as a crime. A 25 year old man and a 12 year old girl is easy. An 18 or 19 year old man and a 14-15 year old girl is not so easy. Is what you said, so I was asking if you really saw a "not easy (to determine)" difference between a 14 and 20 year old. Where in this do I profess my belief that Stevenson was/is guilty? Perhaps in the future you can footnote your posts with an outline and a list of questions that slow-minded people such as myself can ask. heypartner, In the future, please do not hold back in admonishing me for my many flaws in both posting style and content. It is only through your example that i may one day be complete. Sammie, ------------------ I have just realized that the stakes are myself I have no other ransom money, nothing to break or barter but my life my spirit measured out, in bits, spread over the roulette table, I recoup what I can nothing else to shove under the nose of the maître de jeu nothing to thrust out the window, no white flag this flesh all I have to offer, to make the play with this immediate head, what it comes up with, my move as we slither over this go board, stepping always (we hope) between the lines
Do you feel that a 14 year old girl can be considered ready and her partner can be a 45 year old man? Who determines if she (or a 14 year old boy for that matter) is "ready"? ------------------
