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UKTimes: Barak's bungalow booboo

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Feb 26, 2008.

  1. SamFisher

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    The guy's been in the public eye for 10-15 years and has been running for pres for over a year, and is only 46 years old to boot. - you think he's hiding an undiscovered stint in the state pen in there somewhere that no enterprising cub reporter/campaign opponent has yet to discover?

    I would say weak sauce, but that's not even sauce. Watery gruel.
     
  2. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    10-15 years? That's absurd. The very fact that your range is so wide is silly. Frankly, it's reflective of just how shallow the body of knowledge that exists in the minds of Obama's STAUNCHEST supporters really is. The fact of the matter is that no one had evern heard of Obama until the convention in 2004 when Kerry threw him a charity bone. Since then he has ridden the coattails of good-sounding, yet content-light, speeches and the impact of celebrity endorsements to the top of the sad sack democrat party. Get ready to open the kimono, Obama supporters. We've got lots of money to go directly at your weaknesses.
     
  3. SamFisher

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    He became a state legislator in 1996. Last time I checked, that was between 10 and 15.


    Apparently not, which is why McCain is desperate to keep the race publicly funded.

    Jorge - make us a promise - if Barack wins the race, you will leave the BBS forever.
     
  4. Invisible Fan

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    The problem is that he doesn't have an extensive political history over national issues so there isn't a reliable gauge to prove where he stands. While the it's the opposition's job to paint a darker picture of him, I'd say it's easier to fill in that void than to replace a documented record.

    Political endorsements and character testimonies are helpful, but that assumes they matter to the general electorate. It's really a test on how much his supporters trust him and whether that can snowball into the general election.
     
  5. Refman

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    More accurately, a British Iraqui businessman who has been convicted of corruption in France. And doing business with Mr. Rezko, who is on trial for corruption in Illinois and has allegedly gotten $10,000 in kickbacks on state projects funneled to Obama's campaign.
     
  6. El_Conquistador

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    Last I checked, that is 12 years. The fact that you were unable to state that is indicative of your level of knowledge regarding your candidate of choice.

    But you are right, state legislators are CLEARLY in the public eye. I mean, they are famous! World-reknown! What a joke.

    Eh, doesn't matter. Oprah and Halle Berry think he's GORGEOUS and ELOQUENT. lol
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    obama has nothing to do with this dude. probably never even met him. trying to link him to this guy is ridiculous. but thanks for taking a serious look at the democratic candidate for president.
     
  8. Refman

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    That is a non issue. Student loans include a 10 year payback. If Mr. Obama graduated when he was 30, then he would pay off his loans when he is 40 or 41 (depending on the 6 month deferral post-grad).

    That he paid off his loans last year is irrelevant.
     
  9. mc mark

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    One would assume to be elected in 1996 to the state senate one would have to have some public exposure before said year no? Possibly one or three? Maybe even 10?

    *snicker*
     
  10. El_Conquistador

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    Dude, did you even read the article? It was that dude's money that Obama used to pay for the house -- it was channeled through Tony Rezko. Read the article, please.
     
  11. Refman

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    Dude...I don't need a reason not to vote for him.

    I looked at his views on issues that I care about, and we simply don't agree on many of them.

    I don't think he is a bad guy, but we just don't agree on issues that matter to me.

    Oh, and I wouldn't have had to have met John Gotti to have borrowed money from his intermediaries. Thanks for your "heartfelt" thanks though.
     
  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    the question is did you read it, or do you have a grasp of the English language.


    The money transfer raises the question of whether funds from Nadhmi Auchi, one of Britain’s wealthiest men, helped Mr Obama buy his mock Georgian mansion in Chicago."
     
  13. pgabriel

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    I don't care if you vote for him or not, but don't try to pass this off as serious allegation.
     
  14. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    this article lost all creditibility when it mentioned the iraq war. the deal with rezko is a fair topic, this is silly.
     
  15. Refman

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    I don't know whether it is or isn't. I do know that you don't have to meet somebody to do business with them through somebody else. The people involved in this deal not named Barack Obama have been tried for or are facing charges for corruption.

    Most cops will tell you that when you want to know who the guilty parties are...follow the money.

    Most likely, I think that he did something ill-advised...but that there are so many bad actors involved is a little creepy.
     
  16. pgabriel

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    rezko has been dealing with obama since the nineties, even the article says rezko didn't meet this guy till 2003. are you really going to sit here and argue that rezko may have taken money from this guy to help obama by a house?
     
  17. pgabriel

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    there isn't even a question about the loan in question to rezko before the house deal.
     
  18. Refman

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    I'm not arguing either way. I have already stated that I do not know what happened. The parties involved raise a suspicion, but I do not know what happened.

    What I am NOT going to do, since I wasn't there, is proclaim as a certainity that nothing below board happened.
     
  19. JTQ

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    Barak bought a house from Bluth Family? =P
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    Tell me how much do you know about your state senator?

    State senator while in the public eye it isn't a very large segment of the public.
    Anyway if Obama is so well vetted as you seem to be claiming why didn't we hear about Rezko, his mistaken votes or any of the other stuff coming out about him now back in 2004 when he first came to national attention?
     
    #60 rocketsjudoka, Feb 26, 2008
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