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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. basso

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    do you believe Putin is going to Nuke the US?
     
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    If he's getting pelted with nonstop Prigozhin-like rebellions and insurrections, it wouldn't be off the table for him using nukes.

    He launched that continental ballistic missile, Oreshnik, that was labeled hypersonic even when it's the main delivery is tech from last mid century. It wasn't nuclear and it was still enough to destroy underground facilities in Dnipro. There was online speculation over how it could be used to level air fields at a lower cost than conventional means.

    I'm not sure we want to dare Putin to escalate. Your question is coached in binary yes/no but it really depends on how much of a grasp he has and what tools he has left in order to regain control as a result of political losses from Ukraine.

    The script is flipped right now, but there's good reasons why Biden wasn't ready to make Russia fold so bad that there would be an internal regime change.
     
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    Did he say he would nuke the US?
     
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    That's the thing. Every developed country's demographics are ****, so playing Rockem Sockem Robots through Russia and Ukraine seems like a distraction away from real problems.

    I'm getting sick of seeing Jeffrey Sach's mug in my video feeds. The way he presents his points are awful, but his mind is on the right crisis, which is sustainability and resource needs to match further growth as emerging markets rise into developed status.

    I also think people in PRC and Taiwan aren't ready for a real fight. The entire Pacific would rather trade and do business even if they low key hate or resent some of their trade partners.

    The rapid growth and development in drone warfare and robotics will definitely shift the initial decision making calculus away from readiness in personnel, for better or worse. Pentagon talks a big game with their Hellscape program, but a by the numbers calculation hints that defending forces can't overcome the quantity and production capacity of Chinese wartime and dual use drone manufacturers.

    This would totally be a lose-lose fight none of the public wants, but we're all building up in order to strike a better deal, and the public on all sides also have expectations for it.
     
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    I`ve stopped trying to make sense of what trump is doing but my biggest thing is you send in a guy to negotiate who does not have ANY experience dealing with a guy like putin and your shocked when you dont get results.................typical. If thats how you thought you would end the war in one day, they you're a bigger idiot that I thought
     
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    What's wrong with generations since WWII in terms of war. The world is getting more peaceful.

    The positive impact of nukes
     
  7. pgabriel

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    America is exceptional. You know what's arrogant, stupid ass tariffs because you think the global economy has wronged us

    Edit: you make a lot of assumptions about others, fine most of us do. You always assume which side I fall on racial topics thinking I'm always b****ing about "The Man" when you've been ******** on America the whole thread
     
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    What's going on in America? @Nook
     
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    Russia and North Korea are allies of the United States, and the Trump regime.

    The West, and pro-Democracies around the world are the enemies of the United States.

    It's just that simple. It would be incredibly stupid if any intelligence officials from the Five Eyes, or our NATO allies ever shared any amount of intelligence that they didn't also want Russia to have. You just have to assume that there is the West/Five Eyes.... and then there is the Three Eyed Monster of the United States, Russia, and North Korea... along with a couple other low level leaches like El Salvador, Israel, Belarus, and Hungary.

    But there just isn't a debate anymore. The United States under the Trump regime is a strategic ally of Russia. It's just that simple.
     
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