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Ukraine

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. dobro1229

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    You red pilled guys have such a narrow small minded view of the world. Everything boils down to your own war against liberalism or woke or whatever.

    Zelensky is not trying to win Montgomery County in the Texas Senate race. He’s trying to secure powerful allies to help him have enough backing to where Putin will have to retreat and security guarantees are made that either slowly reduce back Russian troops in eastern Ukraine or secure some sort of DMZ. That way Ukraine can have lasting peace and be able to join the EU and be a normal European country. This would be similar to how South Korea was able to develop and grow into what it is today because of its alliances that created enough security and access to trade to allow them to be what they are today. That is what Zelensky is trying to do. Win the war through alliances that could wipe the crap out of Russia if they ever dared fire a bullet at a French or Polish soldier that was stationed at a military base in Eastern Ukraine.

    Which yes despite the propaganda you hear yes these “woke” European countries would wipe the floor with what’s left of the Russian army if they had the green light to step in and engage them on the battlefield. Putin knows that if one battalion from Finland or Poland or France steps onto Ukrainian soil in Eastern Ukraine he loses that battle and loses that territory in a day.

    Zelensky doesn’t give a sh$t about only dealing with “woke” countries because of the politics in the non-woke totally awesome countries around the world like The United States, North Korea, Russia, and Iran.
     
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  2. Amiga

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    Another solid arguments and original thoughts. Be well, my friend.
     
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  3. Buck Turgidson

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    It's in no way an "election conspiracy theory"...America legitimately voted a “doofus puppet with dementia" into office, and we get the government we deserve now
     
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  4. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    You ain’t in Demark dipshit moron. I just saw you at the local library using their free Wi-Fi and your new bride is out on the streets collecting cans to support your lazy ass. Lol
     
  5. Amiga

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    Yes, America voted as it did - or many simply didn't vote - and we're living with the outcome. But people make mistakes, especially when bombarded by endless misinformation and grandiose promises. We deserve better, and sometimes pain is necessary for us to wake up.

    p.s. that was a statement from another poster who believed Biden was installed
     
  6. Buck Turgidson

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    I am aware.
     
  7. Space Ghost

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    Clearly you think America got its power from selling murder weapons. And you're so proud of that.
    It's so fascinating watching the anti-war party from the 60s turn into the war mongering party.
     
  8. peleincubus

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    While Trump was in office the US used drones to kill more people than Obama. When Biden took office they started to go back down.

    Carry on.
     
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  9. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    So you’re still denying about the fact that Biden has dementia and he was installed as puppet to scam us?
    The 81 millions who voted for the walking broccoli is pure science fiction.
     
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  11. dobro1229

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    He’s just lazily gaslighting. Even he is smart enough to know that Russia invading Eastern Europe is more likely to cause war than if he’s stopped because there is a strong global alliance to stand in the way. I mean invading a sovereign country is the definition of starting war.

    Yet he consistently recites Kremlin talking points and takes a pro Putin position on everything which is the side of the war mongering that is actually doing the invading.

    He’s an anti-democratic pro autocratic activist and everything he says should be taken with a grain of salt understanding that he is trying to influence and manipulate you if he perceives you to be someone who is pro democracy and opposes corrupt autocracies.

    He knows that liberal Americans are actually anti war, and most were raised during the bush era and opposed the Iraq war, and the old timers opposed Vietnam. He’s using your values against you to make you question your position in favor of his pro Putin argument. Classic gaslighting and everyone should call him activism out as such.
     
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    More like a Putin puppet who won't acknowledge that his comrade invaded and bombed another country in his power quest. Trump isn't demanding Russia give back the land, and call Putin the evil dictator he is. He just wants the leader of the invaded country to throw up his arms in defeat to appease Putin. That's not a peace agreement, when Putin has broken their trust over and over and over again. Putin's a liar just like Trump, and Zelenskyy knows that from experience. Guys like you believe Trump's lies over and over and over, but Zelenskyy isn't the gullible fool you guys are
     
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    What ? This makes you look terrible SMH.

    This spat simply comes down to money nothing more or less. Why do you disagree with this?
     
  14. Space Ghost

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    this is what war mongering leftist that is found rampant is this thread doesn't understand.

     
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    Hmmmm...you sure about that one?
     
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  16. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    So you have nothing and nobody to bring an end to this war except your usual tired rant that Trump is a dope, a liar and what can he get for himself? Like I’ve said, woke clowns are gonna be woke clowns. Clueless in the real world because of a serious case of TDS.
     
  17. Space Ghost

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    Its amazing how some here hate Trump so much they literally do the opposite of whatever he wants. Trump wants to stop the killing? Nope! Go all in. Maybe we can kill 100k Americans all because we do not like Trump.
     
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    Moral support, but it seems like they're putting pressure on Zelenskyy to make it right with the Americans (sign the deal). They don't wanna pick up the check, if the US pulls out.
     

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