this tactic worked so well during the campaign, by all means, you should continue with it, even louder now. it's very effective.
Convicted Felon Donald Trump agrees ... as he made it a central part of his campaign attack against his opponents.
Trumps whole proposition is just a way to cut off aid. Zelensky isn’t coming to the table to deal therefore no weapons and aid. Classic straw man. Just a laughable proposal meant to strong arm Ukraine, give them a future where they are always waiting for Putin to come right back and none of the security that should come with a peace deal. I also think Europe is more prepared for this than you’d think. My guess is many of the NATO countries would accept US leaving NATO at this point so they can just operate in Europe’s interest instead of constantly worrying about whatever mood the United States in. Yeah it won’t be nearly as powerful militarily but it’ll still be a formidable force nobody will want to go to war with.
I can only be hopeful the next year and a half won't turn out the way the last two pages are describing it
Jeff Snider and Neil Howe promised me the next 12 years will be the most exciting times of this century
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/joe-biden-donald-trump-ukraine-russia-a5dfdd36?mod=hp_opin_pos_0 Biden Leaves Trump a Ukraine Mess His limits on Kyiv’s defenses mean settling the war won’t be easy. By The Editorial Board Nov. 12, 2024 at 5:46 pm ET President Biden hosts Donald Trump at the White House on Wednesday, and word is that he’ll urge the former President to keep supporting Ukraine. The implication of the White House leaks is that Mr. Trump might abandon Mr. Biden’s stalwart policy, but the truth is that the President is leaving Ukraine and Mr. Trump in a bad place. *** Ukraine isn’t losing the war, but thanks in part to Mr. Biden’s limits on its defenses Kyiv isn’t winning either. The war has devolved into a bloody stalemate with horrific casualties on both sides. Russia is making slow territorial gains in Ukraine’s east at high cost. Ukraine has held its salient in Russia’s Kursk region, but the Kremlin is massing for an assault to repel the Ukrainians with the help of some 10,000 North Korean troops. Mr. Biden’s Ukraine policy isn’t the triumph that he and the press advertise. At every stage of the war he has limited the military aid the U.S. would provide and how it was used. Artillery, Patriot air defenses, tanks, F-16s and long-range missiles: the Pentagon has delayed providing advanced weapons for fear that Vladimir Putin might escalate the conflict. The limits have hurt Ukraine’s ability to go on offense against Kremlin forces, including key nodes of supply, communications and weapons stores inside Russia. Mr. Putin’s forces have until recently had a sanctuary inside Russia to attack Ukraine without fear of being hit. Even now the U.S. restricts Ukraine from long-range missile strikes on Russian territory. The U.S. learned the hard way in Vietnam and Afghanistan that you can’t win a war when your enemy has a safe haven. Jake Sullivan, Mr. Biden’s national-security adviser, said Sunday on “Face the Nation” that the Administration plans to give Ukraine all of the military aid that Congress passed this year by the time it leaves office on Jan. 20. This means Mr. Trump will become President with Ukraine exhausting its weapons supply, notwithstanding its impressive and valiant effort to start arming itself on the fly. Mr. Biden and Western leaders have also failed to stanch Mr. Putin’s income from oil and gas sales. Europe still imports Russian natural gas, incredibly enough, and the G-7 oil price cap has largely failed. China helps Russia with economic aid and dual-use technology, and the U.S. hasn’t been able to stop Iran from supplying Russia with missiles and drones. This is the Ukraine war that Mr. Trump will inherit, and it isn’t a counsel of defeat. Mr. Putin faces pressures of his own as his casualties mount. But Mr. Biden shouldn’t be able to get away with claiming success. In any case the mess will soon be Mr. Trump’s. He has said he’ll settle the war by the time he is sworn in, and last week he spoke to Mr. Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. A leak from the Trump camp says he told Mr. Putin not to escalate in Ukraine, but Mr. Putin’s troops keep advancing and massing for more. That sure sounds like escalation. This leaves Mr. Trump with hard choices. If Mr. Putin won’t negotiate a peace that Ukraine can live with, Mr. Trump will have to increase U.S. and Ukrainian military leverage to assist diplomacy. That would mean supporting another aid package in Congress and removing limits on Ukraine’s use of weapons. It would also require putting pressure on Iran, perhaps with Israel’s help, to stop its drone and missile exports to Russia. Economic pressure would also have to increase, including on Western Europe to stop using Russian energy. Mr. Trump would no doubt prefer not to spend political capital in this way. The podcast isolationists in his coalition would be unhappy. But he may not have a choice, unless he wants a rout in Ukraine on his watch. If he fails to support new aid for Ukraine in this scenario, he will set up Kyiv for slow defeat. That would be a disaster for Western interests, as the rest of the world calculated the limits of U.S. support against China and Iran. Depending on the nature of Ukraine’s defeat, it might go down as Mr. Trump’s version of Mr. Biden’s Afghanistan retreat. U.S. alliances would teeter, as American credibility further collapsed. *** This isn’t the outcome Mr. Trump wants, and it isn’t the foreign policy he pursued in his first term. Mr. Trump looked to achieve peace through strength, which he demonstrated against Iran and Russia’s Wagner Group mercenaries in Syria. The challenge he has now is that the world has changed for the worse since he left office. Mr. Biden’s weakness has failed to deter adversaries in Europe, the Middle East and Asia-Pacific. Restoring U.S. deterrence against those adversaries won’t be as easy as sending a drone to kill an Iranian general or bombing Islamic State out of its Syrian sanctuary. The potential rewards in a more peaceful world will be great if Mr. Trump can re-establish deterrence. But a settlement and exit without honor from Ukraine would set the stage for a far uglier second term. Appeared in the November 13, 2024, print edition as 'Biden Leaves Trump a Ukraine Mess'.
We get it. You have Trump assassination fantasy on your mind while you’re eating ass. What a sick lefty pervert. Trump secret police is heading towards you and it’s only a matter of time before you’ll ending up in Noem’s FEMA concentration camp. Lol
Did Bolton shadow pen this op/ed? He wants more escalation from Donny to look tough on Putin. This meandering war of attrition is probably the most cost efficient for the US. It's a humanitarian disaster for Ukranians and Russians, and it's pro "Globalist Agenda," but it also gives the US and EU breathing space to build up their supply chains while beta testing drone warfare with an occasional autonomous tech. If Trump was serious, he'd weigh against how long Putin can credibly last the war (N. Korea's weapons dump might've extended things) and whether pulling out now would be worth more than the opportunity cost of a Russian "surrender".
Russia helped install Trump 2x (actually, tried 3x) And now they want their payback - I guess the only saving grace is that that demented old dude is a notorious deadbeat who never pays what's owed: The final twist of this saga came on Monday when Russia’s intelligence chief, Nikolai Patrushev, made the following comment in an interview with the Moscow newspaper Kommersant: The election campaign is over. To achieve success in the election, Donald Trump relied on certain forces to which he has corresponding obligations. As a responsible person, he will be obliged to fulfill them.
Poor Ukraine, America's crazed pursuit of worldwide domination. Fortunately it can only go on much longer if NATO (read US) sends ground troops, which will not happen. The perfect new US war with no American troops, juicy military industrial profits, neocon dreams of unending American Empire.
Well Europe may get tired of a NATO controlled by US neocons primarily interested in drawing them into wars. Europe gets lots of refugees from the senseless US promoted wars in Iraq, Syria and Ukraine. Europeans have Germany their most important economy destroyed by the US blowing up the gas pipeline providing cheap gs from Russia which only benefits US LNG
I like how all of your arguments are all geared at demonizing America and never once mention Putin and Russia. It’s almost as though they didn’t exist and the United States went funded a war against a ghost. Look we all understand the evils of the US military industrial complex. You aren’t moving anyone here who wasn’t yet aware of that. But the US had not been wrong to help defend free societies from invading tyrants. In the Ukraine case it’s not as clear as you are making it out to be. You are leaving out the months and months that Biden and his staff met directly with Russia to try to convince them to not invade. They released classified intelligence in order to try and curb their attacks by calling them out publicly. Putin also is deranged and evil. He said it himself in his speech before invading what he thinks. He’s doing this not because of the evils of the US. He’s doing this because of deep seated nationalism and blood and glory. He was talking about the Viking era for Christs sake. The guy is a maniac who is a murderer. He bombed hospitals. He is not a good guy. So I just have to say that your perspective on Ukraine is just flat out wrong because you fail at any junction to include Putin and Russia as a player here with any responsibility. I also have friends who live in Ukraine and travel here to the US in the summers when they can. You are just dead wrong here in assuming that there’s nothing tragic here affecting innocent people and assuming those innocent people blame the US. They don’t. The Ukrainians I know are very grateful to the US and hate Putin. They do not want to be subjugated by Putin and they want to be part of the western economy. They don’t blame us they blame him. Non of your hand wringing here ever once considers their perspective on the matter.
I’m starting to agree with that at this point the lame duck administration might as well give Ukraine whatever it wants. Trump will force them to accept a deal that will leave a lot of the country in Russian hands. Might as well strengthen Ukraine’s position so they can take as much territory back before the next administration.
People are going to be really shocked when I tell you that the military industrial complex budget will make more money off of war with Trump than the “neo con” Biden administration. People who voted for Trump thinking it means less war are the biggest fools of them all.
