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Ukraine

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. Space Ghost

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    We are getting even closer, war mongers. Almost there. You will get your wwiii that you promised we would get under Trump.

    The Biden Administrations foreign policy is abysmal.
     
  2. NewRoxFan

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    Maybe the Ruskies will stop conning South Asians into bait and switch conscriptions now that Kim is sending off death row detainees into the meat grinder.



    Maybe...
     
  4. deb4rockets

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    Two of the most evil leaders on earth right now are Trump's idols. Will he still praise those two evil men, or will speak out against them?
     
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    Trump wants to "negotiate" the peace deal LOL........................putin is his idol and he has already said Zelensky is a con man so I am sure that would go over well, putin would play trump like the idiot he is
     
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    Neither of those guys can see anything coming from the left or the right, only straight ahead

    That's why they're so focoused on The Folders
     
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  7. Space Ghost

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    Looks like Ukraine may surrender.

    I wonder which Biden withdrawl performance will be better. This one or afganistan.
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    Yes it’s exactly like Afghanistan because the Ukrainian military hasn't been fighting and the US has stationed so many troops in Ukraine.
     
  9. dmoneybangbang

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    Lol… You and your side must be giddy about Putin coming out on top.
     
  10. Space Ghost

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    What kind if deal do you think Putin is going to agree to? Do you think he will say "oKaY jUdOka, we will withdrawl, hand over Crimea, pay war reparations and let Ukraine into NATO"?

    He will demand Zelensky to remain neutral, stop taking western weapons and they can keep their independence while Russia retains control of what they have now
     
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    Things must be going great for Putin when he can now send NK men into the meat grinder, instead of ethnic minorities throughout the Russia empire.

    Remind me how Russia got all those vassal states in Central Asia?
     
  12. dmoneybangbang

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    Ukraine and EU are discussing a security pact…. I’m sure you are upset.
     
  13. Invisible Fan

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    Putie wants that Nazi Zelensky out, and someone more like the last guy in or more preferably a Belarus crony SlavE state.

    Belarus has been a PITA to its neighbors as well.

    **** that. He and Kim can go up a treehouse, talk **** about Xi, and giggle like bloodthirsty schoolgirls without Ukraine being thrown to the wolves.
     
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    In this statement you undercut your own point you’ve been blabbering about for the past 2 years. It’s so obvious that there’s no negotiable position with a tyrant like Putin. He’s not reasonable and the years have made him more delusional. We all know there’s no deal to be made that is reasonable that he accepts.

    If the two sides had a true negotiation with essentially outside superpowers negotiating for both sides I think you’d see a deal that came down to Crimea becoming Russia officially and maybe some sliver of the Donbas while Ukraine being given reparations to repair cities and also being allowed to join NATO and be part of the EU. There’s no deal unless there’s a guarantee Putin won’t just re-invade which he will do unless Ukraine officially has a real military power behind them.

    Even then that’s a hard pill for both sides to swallow because of the issue of water mostly. Crimea is reliant on Ukraine for water virtually any way you look at it. There’s a significant geographical issue here as well as a security issue. There would need to be a lot of UN presence here in this region to ensure this doesn’t end up being a nightmare in the future with one side being able to literally turn off the water on the other. The Ukrainians also know they’ll never be safe is Crimea is part of Russia and whatever type of trade or infrastructure they build up in the future will have Russia right there on top of them. In order to ensure peace moving forward the only way is to have Crimea be a neutral country on its own. There’s no way Putin accepts that and even third parties would know that going into a negotiation, Crimea is unlikely to go back to Ukraine.

    Obviously since you are a Putin fanboy you love all of this. So you tell us as someone who looks favorably at a muderous dictator what he’s actually going to agree to and tell us again why the US and NATO should take any agreement he makes seriously??
     
  15. HTM

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    Wonder how Zelensky is feeling after that Biden debate.

    If you think Ukraines fate hangs on Biden retaining the White House you’d have to be deeply concerned.
     
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    Wonder how the rest of the world feels about Trump possibly becoming president again and running this country further into the ground? If you are an advocate of democracy you have to be deeply concerned. :rolleyes:
     
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  17. HTM

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    Well this is the Ukraine thread and Ukraine is currently at war with its survival directly and presently connected to US aid.

    Whatever you’re rambling about is hardly on topic.
     
  18. Andre0087

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    Don't like what I have to say? Move on and don't read it hypocrite...
     
  19. rocketsjudoka

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    He can demand that and maybe Zelensky agrees. That is nothing like what happened in Afghanistan where the whole country fell.
     
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  20. HTM

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    Hypocrite? What have I said hypocritical?

    Try not to be a psycho when you engage with others.
     

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