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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    Heh, choosing to follow chip freaking roy over Mitt Romney.
     
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    I am vladimir putin and I approve this message
     
  3. El_Conquistador

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    Let's see how much you really support the investment in war in Ukraine. Two questions for you:

    1) Are you willing to send your child to fight in Ukraine?

    2) How much of your own money are you willing to send to Ukraine?
     
  4. Commodore

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    Commie, why are you a mouthpiece for Russia and Sucker Carlson. The journalist that was killed in 2022 was shot by Russians.....why the lies when its so easy to get the facts. Your narrative is we should not send money to Ukraine, I know you want Russia to win but at least be honest about it.........
     
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    Well it’s a good thing we aren’t sending US troops to fight in Ukraine. Ukraine falls thought and Russia shifts its attention to a NATO country like the Baltics we will have to send US troops to fight.
     
  7. Commodore

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    by this reasoning, the US must get involved in any act of aggression all over the world, lest it escalate further

    Imagine if Congress had no money printer and had to raise taxes from Americans (or sell war bonds) to transfer to Ukraine. That day is soon coming. It is an inevitability.
     
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    The failure of isolation was shown in WWII where even though the US said it didn’t want to be involved in European wars not only got sucked into a European war but also an Asian war. While the US has been involved in several wars since there hasn’t been a major conflict between world powers. In fact Ukraine is the only land war they has been fought in Europe since WWII that wasn’t a civil war like the collapse of Yugoslavia.

    At the same time the growth of the European and Asian economies has provided major trade and economic partners that have greatly benefitted the US economy.

    An American global hegemony has problems but has been a much greater benefit to the US than the decades of isolationism between the World Wars. Even now we’re seeing that Europe is in better position to help themselves. In Bosnia and Kosovo the Europeans needed direct US involvement to deal with that. The Europeans aren’t calling on direct US military involvement to deal with Ukraine. In fact they themselves just sent $80 billion in aid to Ukraine.
     
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  9. Commodore

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    believe it or not, not every moment in history is analogous to WWII
     
  10. NewRoxFan

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    It depends on who is involved in the act of aggression (the aggressor and the country attacked by the aggressor) and the potential impact on the United States. Ukraine is a strategic ally, and preventing russia from taking over Ukraine is in the United States best interests. But this has been explained to you for a while, both by Americans and by the russians that you seem to believe.
     
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    And yet, during the history lesson your putin wanted to tell his vessel carlson, hitler was somehow justified in taking over Poland. I wonder why putin chose to re-spin world history in that way?
     
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    LOL... and funny how the migrant car company owner literally regurgitates the same putin lies... "this demands closer scrutiny" is the new "just asking questions" .

     
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  13. Commodore

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    the parallels to the COVID tyranny ("full speed ahead, don't ask questions") are evident
     
  14. NewRoxFan

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    Your "listening to putin" must be the parallel to "drink bleach, insert a bright light, and take horse dewormer"...
     
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    Shocking that lindsey graham isn't ever a man, ahem, of his word...

     
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    yes, except Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Obama dithered, Crimea withered, and Putin slithered back for more seven years later.
     
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    Not only did he slither, he got to host the World Cup afterwards. Russia paid no real consequence on the world stage for annexing Crimea.
     
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