I think that we can add to our list of Elon Musk descriptions ... someone who does not read/understand history.
It took the Roman Empire about 500 years to colapse, and half of it stuck around another 500 years. If the USA disapears in 1000 years, that would have been a pretty good run.
Don't forget the real reason why elon says this ****. It's to get in good grace of the CCP. He knows he can spin braindead America is bad points and his cult @Space Ghost will bootlick him anyways. Don't forget musk is literally getting more money from bidens subsidies than any other company thru tesla and tesla solar. He talks **** about America while getting billions then uses that **** talking for leverage with ccp. It's just funny how dipshits think he's some sort of savior @AroundTheWorld
He talks **** about leftist. That is not America. Ofc he isn't going to run his mouth about the CCP. It's stupid to think he should
The Western Roman Empire spread themselves too thin to fend off the barbarians. Add in all of the internecine war between its generals, Rome in 476 CE had no chance maintaining state. The "barbaric" Germanic tribes to their north, posed an existential threat to the Roman Republic ~500 BCE through the Roman Empire ~500 CE. Even at Rome's peak military power, the Germanic tribes were no pushovers. There is no comparable threat to the US Empire, outside of full blown nuclear war.
Our existential threats are either from within or from self-sentient murderbots with the gift of gab. I would even argue climate related shifts or our economy/currency becoming 2nd rate only threaten the way of living that we're used to but not necessarily the nation's long term well being.
We are involved with Ukraine because Putin/Russia are a threat to US interest, yes? And Russia is no direct threat to our country. There is not a Russian influenced military on any of our borders. Exactly what interests are we really concerned about? If Europe is so weak they can not defend against an incompetent and poor armed Russia, why do we even keep them as allies? Perhaps we should ally with China. Russia has been accused of war crimes. Very barbarian of them. We also view the Iran government (and extension, their people for allowing them to retain in power) and North Korean as barbaric. Your words were very direct. It seems you have a very black/white view and its probably less grey than your feeble attempt to backtrack on a very specifically used word. Its ok to believe we are imperialistic. The $USD is the world reserve currency. Need I say more?
It's going to be another mild winter - i honestly don't see how this is the magic bullet if it wasn't last time People (american people) tend to focus on the Europeans as a bunch of fraidy cats here - in relative to resources terms, the Europeans (particuarly the nordic countries & the baltic countries) have donated a lot more than the US per capita, for obvious reasons. A lot of people like to focus on Ukraine's options - what is Russias endgame here? Frankly it seems to me like they are royally ****ed - they are fighting for a stalemate now that they can't even preserve. Let's pretend the best case scenario for Trump/Putin/Tucker happens and somehow the west completely abandons Ukraine. This would be bizarre becuase NATO's eastern border would be in even more danger, but let's assume it happens. What then? Russia has lit its armed forces on fire and more or less destroyed its adult male population. Do you think the exiles are coming back? Doubtful. They barely have enough people to occupy the small slices of territory they obtained and other than looting refrigerators, how are they going to invade an area several times larger populated by millions of people who hate their guts? They can try to level every city in Ukraine like they did in Chechnya which is literally 1/40th of Ukraine's size - and kill as many people as possible, but 1) do they even have capabilty to do that anymore, given how depleted their stocks are, and 2) it's a great way to get the West involved and it gets Russia basically nothing in the end. There's no good endgame for Russia here that is realistically possible. Even a stalemate would mean years of occupying bombed out no mans land while Ukraine shoots drones at them (which is going to happen Crimea forever until they leave).
Russia has been a historic threat to European peace. Russia and Russia controlled CCCP have threaten Europe and the US militarily. Europe and the US response to this threat was NATO. Russian military is not on our borders. But their nuclear arsenal in pointed directly at the US (and our NATO allies). Russia has also projected their power into NATO and US elections via disinformation campaigns. Your "an incompetent and poor armed Russia" argument is also BS 20/20 hindsight. This may now be a reality to NATO, but it is an open question if Russia believes this. Of course if your argument is that the US should ditch NATO ... since you have deeply ingrained isolationistic views ... Why would any nation ever take our word again? If you think that this is a small issue of little import, you are sadly mistaken.
We also have ours pointed at them and anyone else we deem a threat. I think it would be wise to stick to the original narrative. An unhinged Russia is a serious threat. What the vast majority of people are failing to understand is that Russia is not running their military through some hypothetical war game. If Ukraine comes to a peace deal that does not result in Russia being completely ran out and severely punished, they have effectively hardened their military. Their defense network is being tested and hardened. If they get free trade back, which if I am Russia, I would demand nothing less, they can become a serious threat in 3-5 years working along side China. I never said the US should abandoned NATO. I have specifically stated NATO is a defensive pact that only comes to the aid of its allies. Ukraine is, which is blatantly obvious, not part of NATO so therefore NATO has no business involved in this. If countries, based on their 'self interest', wish to provide aid, then they should be allowed to provide this aid. NATO is in the thick of it.
I hope you're right about the winter. That 1 trillion in hedging/overpaying, plus all of the lost productivity from curbing demand during this winter, played a yuge role in their current stagflationary climate. It's our responsibility to worry about those herd of fraidy cats since we're leading the alliance. They might've preferred to delude themselves that they could trade with Russia and China like it was 2014. Now that they're dumping more into military spending and expanding alliances, we should give them some leeway as they eat or pay for their past mistakes.
Unsurprising, NATO has a different opinion than @Space Ghost wrt what it's interests are and are not. Millions of Ukrainian refugees pouring into NATO and EU nations is causing politically instability in those nations. They want that to stop. I suspect that American SCWs would get that, if they gave it half of a thought. You do know that Russia has threatened Poland that they are next, right? And Poland is a NATO member.
People like to compare the US with the Roman Empire and there certainly are parallels. If we look at the end of the Roman Republic there are many parallels. The rise of populist leaders who capitalized on anger, the failure of peaceful transfer of power, and the failure of checks and balances. We literally see many of those factors at play now in this country.
Modest suggestion. Learn about how Much we already support US farmers and first responders much much more than we support Ukraine. https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/farm-economy/farm-commodity-policy/farm-bill-spending/ This stuff isn’t hard to find but it’s more misleading stuff that we’re supporting Ukraine rather than supporting domestic programs
