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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. London'sBurning

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    You're so full of ****. They already cut entitlements and it has nothing to do with the budget of the military. What the **** are you on this morning?
     
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  2. Amiga

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    For Ukrainian defense against an aggressor and to prevent the war from spreading towards NATO and involving NATO, which would then force us into a war with Russia.

    We have spent probably ng 3-4x that solely for Israeli defense. Similar concept and we weren't at war then either.
     
  3. tinman

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    America has 12 alien craft they are trying to reverse engineer.
    The giant triangle shape ufo is American made reverse engineered

    we can vaporize the Russians


     
  4. Os Trigonum

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    your statement was "We are not at war" to which I simply replied "this is certainly debatable."
     
  5. Amiga

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    sure, but it's not debatable to me (ie. i have found zero points that make that argument sensible)
     
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  6. Os Trigonum

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    understood
     
  8. dobro1229

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    Bringing up Sudan really speaks to ignorance of the entire dynamic with Russia, and the West. Who is the US supposed to arm in this case to support the citizens who are fleeing the violence mostly perpetrated by the RSF?

    You do realize that this would then put American weapons and potentially "peace keeping" US soldiers in direct conflict with a military group that is almost one in the same with The Wagner Group...

    Think about things a bit before you come in with what you think is a snarky gotcha response.

    .........

    And before you say "oh I just meant humanitarian aid for the refuges".... The US just this year provided a record amount to the WFP who is spearheading most of the humanitarian efforts. The US IS helping here where it can. The issue is providing a location for Sudanese refugees to go which the US could allow to immigrate to the US as the next step in helping.

    So tell me again your thoughts on the US immigrating 3 million Sudanese refugees? Are you saying you are in favor of that as opposed to helping Ukraine end a war that Russia started???
     
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  9. DaDakota

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    The Ukraine should invade Russia and swing around behind the front.......

    DD
     
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    It seems the latest is that both the US and EU are pushing back against Zelensky's pleas to escalate membership talks. Which is good for the reasons the article provides.

    I'd like to know any Euro leader that's still pushing for this so that we can send them an invoice for costs already accrued.
     
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  11. DaDakota

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    Send those bills to Putin.

    DD
     
  12. dobro1229

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    NATO membership status won’t change as it would mean the west declaring war on Russia.

    Putin kept Ukraine from joining NATO by invading but he also in turn forced Finland and Sweden to join NATO. And after the war is over I’m sure there will be no issues at all with Ukraine joining at that point.

    Zelensky is just doing what he can to end the war overnight. It’s not his job to worry about US, and European politics.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Also Zelensky's country is the one that is being bombed, and mined and ruined.......which is why IMHO, they should take the war too Russia......and be on their territory, occupy some of that, and then trade it for the land that is rightfully theirs.

    Heck take out Belurus, they are weak.


    DD
     
  14. Space Ghost

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    Russia will join NATO before Ukraine. Ukraine was never going to be part of NATO. This wishful fantasy served only as an excuse for the war mongers to deploy NATO/US troops to Ukraine.
    Putin has always known this. NATO doesn't give a **** about Ukraine. They simply do not want Russia to occupy it.

    Don't be surprised if Z turns into the next OBL in a couple decades.
     
  15. Space Ghost

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    Russia will join NATO before Ukraine. Ukraine was never going to be part of NATO. This wishful fantasy served only as an excuse for the war mongers to deploy NATO/US troops to Ukraine.
    Putin has always known this. NATO doesn't give a **** about Ukraine. They simply do not want Russia to occupy it.

    Don't be surprised if Z turns into the next OBL in a couple decades.
     
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    Good grief. The warping of brains man, my goodness.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Put down the crack pipe and slowly back away.

    DD
     
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  18. dobro1229

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    Well except for the fact that NATO's Secretary General has said this:



    You simply either have no idea what you are talking about, are a Russian paid propagandist, or are the worlds worst troll.
     
  19. NewRoxFan

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    This must have gone out as a magagram...

     
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