For one it's a clear cut case of anti-Democracy expansionist invading a Democracy with little to no provocation. Many of the wars we pass on aren't about defending democracy. But going back to your original point sometimes we aid those that are against democracy. However, I don't believe we should let past mistakes dictate that we make another one now. I think learning from the past mistakes of not stepping up sooner VS. Expansionist invading authoritarians are good ones to learn from.
How did this most unlikeliest of leaders from a background standpoint become so iconic in leadership? I can’t imagine his concerns over his wife and kids and yet projecting the strength he has for his people
leadership comes not from who you were, but what you do when confronted with the/a challenge. Zelensky has read his Churchill, and seized his moment. we should grateful for his clarity.
as a follow-on to the above ^^^ what differentiates Ukraine from Syria, Afghanistan, Congo, Chenya, Georgia, et al... ...none of them had their Zelensky.
I need to stop doom-scrolling. It is terrible for my mental health and as much as it pains me there is nothing I can do to stop the massacre of the Ukrainians (or any other group). And these are real people just like me whose lives are being permanently destroyed. Reality is cruel.
If you read the post I was quoting and responding to, that's exactly what he was saying. He wasn't arguing NATO shouldn't provide a no-fly zone, he said it was shortsighted of Ukraine to ask for it because it's better for them to pick losing than risk being nuked. You seem to spend a lot of time here responding to what you want people to be saying instead of what they actually are saying.
The question we don't have the question to is What is Russia's nuclear protocol? Does Putin have the ability to launch nukes is everyone there refuses?
That's not the way I read his comment. I read his argument as look, Ukraine isn't better off drawing us into a conflict with Russia where they are potentially likely to be nuked, not that he is suggesting they should actually lay down their arms and surrender. So if I am misinterpreting what you are saying, or he is saying, then my bad. But that's how I read it.
America is aiding a brutal Saudi led genocide in Yemen Congress passed a bipartisan bill aimed to end any US military involvement in the genocide in 2019, but it was vetoed by Trump https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/us/politics/trump-veto-yemen.html Not sure why the bill hasn't been attempted again under Biden, this is something we as Americans could make an impact on in a way.
If we had 750 F-22's and could deploy a few hundred, a no fly zone might actually be something that could be done with little danger. As it stands, they were canceled after the 2008 election because Russia was never going to roll tanks on the west and nothing in the world ever changes so we didn't need them.
We could act with some members of NATO without making it an official NATO action. We could act with allies in and out of NATO.
