It’s like we have a generation of people (a lot here) who have never seen one movie or documentary on WW2. America at that time coming out of a Great Depression also didn’t have a population wanting foreign intervention on the other side of the world sort of like we are now where nobody wants us involved in another conflict. We cannot let people use our anti-interventionist nature against us when the right thing to do is staring us in the face. Commodore the other day was equating Biden increasing troops to NATO and threatening sanctions to parallels to the war in Iraq. This is completely different and we cannot fall for people like him trying to manipulate the situation just because he’s pro Putin and fascism. Then there was the media at the time which has also learned nothing. Hence: If what the media and the right wing are doing takes foot and that softens the West to allowing Putin to do what he’s capable of, we’ll end up in a worse global crisis. No we don’t have to attack Russia or assassinate Putin, but we should have support for a President seeking to give a sh$t about a country very similar to Poland right before WW2.
Why do we need these extra no skill workers then? Why not just mow your own yard? I keep hearing that AI will make working redundant and we must give people a Basic Income to account for that. That doesn't jive with what you are saying now.
Does Putin have a massive camp where he is concentrating people because of their religion? I thought that was china.
Good post. So many here go on and on about containing the PRC including accusing other posters of being ChiCom stooges. The PRC under Xi is dangerous and Xi's ambitions need to be contained yet so many on the Right are either downplaying Putin's ambitions or justifying them. Also for those who believe Xi is the bigger threat a failure of the US, NATO and the rest of the World community to respond to Russian aggression in Ukraine will just embolden Xi on Taiwan and other areas where the PRC has territorial ambitions.
100% Taiwan is set to be the next global crisis in Biden and the West’s lap. However China will be much easier to deal with if Russia is not in manifest destiny mode invading Ukraine. It’s not if, it’s when Xi goes after Taiwan and we absolutely should be ready for that moment. Much of the China conundrum comes down to global business and starting the process of diversifying global manufacturing. Nobody can ignore the fact that we rely on China every day for our goods and services. That needs to change or they’ll always be able to act with impunity. To your point though, are you saying that you need to kill millions in a concentration camp in order to warrant US intervention?? The US didn’t even know or it wasn’t widely known until the end of the war what Hitler was really doing with the camps. I’m talking about the lead up where Hitler was using the age old Alexander the Great playbook to gin up support in Germany for invading Poland.
Maybe not camps but Putin's Russia is persecuting many based on religion. They've been persecuting Jehovah's Witnesses for years https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...campaign-jehovahs-witnesses/story?id=78629389
100%. Xi’s inevitable invasion of Taiwan will be strategized after seeing what the world did or did not do with the Ukraine situation just as Hitler followed Mussolini and Franco. But you and I know that the downplaying of Putin/Ukraine is just politics. The right is being shoveled Kremlin talking points every night on Fox. They’ve been conditioned to be sympathetic to Putin and they 100% would rather see Biden fail even at the cost of war in Europe that’ll affect us at some point in big ways. I’m not exactly confident in knowing what to do or say to our fellow Americans who might or might not understand what they really are supporting.
No, I was talking about dobro's shitty comparison of Putin to Hitler in WWII. I contended it wasn't any any comparison. You then jumped in and talked about a cult.
The post I was responding to was this https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/ukraine.294682/page-13#post-13930585 Also just because Jehovah's Witnesses are smaller than other demonimations does it make it OK then for Putin to oppress them?
The only counter you gave was that Putin hasn't killed millions in concentration camps which I said had nothing to do with the comparison. I was merely talking about the territorial expansion aggression of dictators starting with Mussolini and Franco which gave inspiration and motivation to Hitler's 3rd Reich. Are you really denying that Putin is not engaged in a similar dictatorial "blood and soil" territorial expansion campaign?? When you then go to the "What about China" talking point it only bolsters the point I was making even more when you take into context Mussolini, Franco, and yes even Stalin having an effect on what actions Hitler took prior to WW2. Russia and China are two powder kegs that are connected. However... holding and shoring up our alliances RIGHT NOW in this Ukraine situation is incredibly important in the longrun if we want to have any hope in maintaining some level of peace in Asia with whatever Xi is planning in the longrun, and of course putting global pressure on Xi to free the Uyghurs from oppression. So my question to you is why are you so sympathetic to Putin in this case why you think his campaign is something we should just ignore and brush aside? If you really are sympathetic to the Uyghurs why would you want Putin to be able to weaken our alliances which are the only way we have to truly put unified global pressure on China to change their behavior??
well, the man was in the Senate for 36 years and then he spent another 8 years as vice-president. pretty sure he can claim at least partial credit
