[Uh-Oh]Israel and Gaza on the brink of all out WAR

Very true.

Allah's apostle did say, 'war is deceit'...this is so true.







On both sides.

 

I FIFY

 

So you are saying that launching rockets at civilians is "in response to an occupation".

Shows where you stand.

 

It does show where I stand. That is why they are doing it. That doesn't make it okay to attack civilians, but it is the simplified reason why they did it.

 

Don't rationalize terror.

 

Uprooting families, bulldozing their homes, and building illegal settlements where once their home used to be, is terror as well.

 

Says the big backer of killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis based on lies about wmd.

Wierdly he doesn't understand this.

 

Stay on point guys, no need to start attacking the man & not the message.


You're better than that glynch...:grin:

 

You keep repeating this. I haven't done a search to see what I posted, but I was pretty torn on the Iraq war. And I certainly didn't want hundreds of thousands of people to be killed. Your accusations and attempts at demonization are slanderous and deceitful.

 

Don't forget the all-important label: Supporter of Bashar Al Assad in 2013.

Perhaps I should post a list of the organizations which are today supporting Assad in this conflict?

 

So you are saying that you support the militant extremist Muslim Brotherhood?

 

I'm not rationalizing terror at all. I've always said it's wrong, and still believe it's wrong, and is not a solution to the real problems faced by the Palestinians.

Saying that Palestinians are acting out in reaction to the oppression, occupation, and bigotry they face by the govt. of Israel isn't in any way saying that it's okay to use terrorism.

Why is that hard for you to understand?

 

If your child annoys you by being loud and you brutally beat it up so that it dies, do you think it would be appropriate to stress that the child annoyed you by being loud?

Point being, if a "reaction" is totally out of line, by stressing that it was a "reaction", you rationalize it.

But apparently that is too hard for you to understand.

 

I understand that fine.

The nation of Israel systematically discriminating against a people, occupying and oppressing them isn't really the equivalent of a child being loud and annoying.

I didn't start out stressing Israel's actions, but did so only after Doc Tal corrected a post that someone else made trying to extending it. I merely continued that patter extending it further.

 

It doesn't matter what the equivalent would be, as long as one cannot claim to be acting in self-defense.

Are you claiming that the Palestinians are acting in self-defense when they indiscriminately lob rockets at civilians?

 

No, and you are making the mistake of thinking I'm justifying their terrorism. I've said time and time again that it's not what I'm doing, nor do I have any intention of trying to do that.

So given that I've made that clear it makes no sense for you to ask me if I'm trying to say that it's self defense.

 

By stressing that they are merely responding to Israeli actions you are implying that. Otherwise, why would you stress that?

 

I would stress that because Doc Tal elaborated on what someone else said in an effort to excuse one side for wrong doing, so I elaborated on what he said in an effort to point out that no side is innocent of wrong doing. I was continuing the pattern.

 

Ok fine.

 

I just did a search. I couldn't find much in terms of posts I made on Iraq. This was one of them:

How does that sound like a "big backer of killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis based on lies about wmd"?

I said that I was unsure if Saddam really had WMD and that my understanding was that the USA's use of international law was farcical...whereas glynch said something like that "Iran was on its way to being a moderate country".

How has that worked out so far, glynch? Do you think they are a moderate country yet?

Does anyone see the parallel to the same leftists now claiming that Egypt et al. are "on the way to becoming a moderate country"?