dawg... whats with the personal insults. that aint right. i havent personally attacked anyone. again, UH is more popular that any other school in HOUSTON- sorry if that wasn't made clear enough. you cannot deny that. most all of its graduates work here. and im willing to bet that UT wont destroy UH. UT is overrated this year (arkansas st, you kidding me? colt mccoy aint that amazing either...), and as for the whole small school trying to cash in against UT thing? check UTs football schedule. your more insistent on playing with arkansas state, central florida (C-USA team), and Rice (ANOTHER C-USA team)? both those C-USA schools suck at football, and should be easy wins. I guess UH just isnt cupcake enough for UT to run over. sure we lost to oregon and miami (admittedly, we shot ourselves in the foot essentially in both those games), also, USF got into the big east, and they didnt go 5-1 against the big 12, beat miami, or even come close to getting ranked. they had one of the worst football teams, and did nothing to get there. and for the record, we played OSU last year and beat their asses. UT needs to stop running from us, stop hiding behind terrible c-usa teams, and man up, i dont make huge leaps in logic. some schools don't get everything handed to them, and we've had to work our way all the way back to where we stand now. you sound about as well versed in college football as jesse palmer. haters like you need to get ur heads on straight and give a little respect.
Refman - I went to UH. My Mother went to UH and left near the top of her class with a Math degree. She went on to become one of the first female Senior analysts in the Oil and Gas industry while working for four different companies. My Father got his Doctorate in Organizational Behaviour and Management there and went on to work as a tenured professor,as an author of many books,military,govt., private sector,etc..I didn't need to tell you all that for you to know I have Cougar Red and white running through my veins. My point is this.....UH is a fantastic school.One can write their own ticket there. And as a fellow Cougar I respect what you have to say.But if your going to sit there and try to tell me WE have no chance of ever getting a sniff of a power conference I have to in the nicest way possible tell you that your not in touch with what is happening. And this isn't directed towards Refman - just a general statement. It's in most people's nature to poo poo or tear down what they don't understand/want to attempt to comprehend.
How old were y'all when you graduated? UH is a commuter school. It has been for years. It simply doesn't have the alumni backing other schools have. Why do you think there are so many UT T-shirt fans in this town? I know several people who graduated from UH. None of which follow UH athletics at all. Not saying it is a bad school to graduate from.
That's Ohio State I was talking about. Not Oklahoma St. That's my whole point. Texas schedules tough non-conference games. OSU is 50 times better than UH. TCU is significantly better than UH. UT does not hide from your program. Yea. That's my point. Small schools lay themselves down for the big schools to cash in on the gross. That's how programs like USC, LSU, Michigan, Texas and OSU function. Don't complain about not getting a shot against those schools when you don't win the opportunities you are getting, like a crappy miami team. Win those games and then start complaining that you aren't getting a fair deal. I bet more people watch UT games in houston on TV than UH games. Even if I concede that point, Who Cares? Why is being the most popular team in your own city a selling point for getting into a major conference? How many teams can you name in the Big 12, Pac 10, Big 10, SEC that aren't the most popular team in their city? Maybe UCLA? Houston isn't even that great a tv market to being with. They were overrated to begin the year but they are about where they should be right now. We still beat Ark St. We beat them. We win games. That's the point right? Even with that not very impressive win, we still blew out TCU. One of the best defenses in the country was dismantled. They didn't score a touchdown on offense. TCU is many times better than UH. You're right. They didn't. But the big 12 has no control over what the Big 10 does. Go try and join the big 10. Point is, they got in without deserving it. Just because they did doesn't mean UH should as well. No one is going to listen to you if your argument is, "well we also don't deserve to be there but you let USF in..." And you don't deserve it. You don't have enough consistency. You don't have enough wins against quality opponents. If you want to prove you belong in a big conference, than beat teams from big conferences. You think you have proved yourself by going from pure suckage to an average team? You have to say that if you were in charge of the Big 12 and you could only add 1 team, it would be TCU. and in the same post you say: right...
It's cool Brando. The Coogs will simply waltz into the Big 12 by default as soon as every last Horn is in jail! See you "big boys" in a couple weeks, I guess. There's still plenty of room on our bandwagon!
No question UH is a commuter campus. No question that our “tradition” isn't on a par with Texas or A&M in football. What we have right now is a rock solid core of fans who will support a 2 win or 10 win Cougar team. Thats pretty much enough to nearly fill Robinson. We are dependant on the casual Houston sports fan taking us into their hearts...like they did in the Run and Shoot and Phi Slamma Jamma days. To do that we have to win. Honestly I am not THAT upset that we lost to Oregon, I don't think Michigan is the last elite level team they are gonna torch this year. Anyway last I heard you don't HAVE to have half of your city living on campus and in a corps of cadets, or have the only pro sport in your town be called something like the Ice Bats, and the other surrogate pro team residing in Tennesee to fill a stadium and buy red t-shirts in a city the size of Houston. We just have to win, and we will. If we build it they will come.
Yea, it sucks that there are so many pro teams in Houston but that is reality, not an excuse. The reasons don't matter. Wins do. 06: 10-4 05: 6-6 04: 3-8 03: 7-6 02: 5-7 01: 0-11 That's one great year, 2 ok, and 2 bad seasons and 1 huge embarrassment in the last 6 years. That is not a winning program. Win your conference every other year. Win 9 games consistently. The teams you play are ****ty. If you are finishing with a .500 record, you shouldn't feel like you deserve to play in a better conference. The only reason I have heard that makes sense in this thread is that UH should get into the big 12 because other teams who were worse have gotten into other conferences.
Kinda like you feel the need to come into just about any thread discussing certain state universities & sh*t all over things?
TCU making a strong case tonight by managing to blow a game they were dominating to a highly mediocre Air Force team.
I was going to help refute the "dorks go to Baylor" comment by noting that Angela Kinsey from "The Office" went to Baylor, but she's kind of a dork, too.
Baylor is 2-1 this year in football. National Champs in womens basketball, tennis, track & field. Top ranked in baseball. Being in the Big XII isn't all about football. Keep an eye on them this year though, theyre not bad.
It's not about respect or anything. You walk around A&M, UT, Baylor...the sports teams are the heart of the campus and city. College Station is empty during A&M games, stadium is packed. All the local Waco people live and breath Baylor sports. Same goes for UT students. Your mom, dad, brother all have prestigous degrees from UH, thats great. But it's all about the culture of campus and the city IMO. UH is a commute school, people go to class, get the hell out of there and go to work or back to another side of Houston. It'd never work.
Correct, as a Bear, I have to say it's not just about football. I mean, honestly I'd take just football, but we have other stuff going for us. All the sports you mentioned plus have good programs and our basketball program's gonna look good, especially after rebuilding after that whole scandal a few years back.
Thanks for the comments about my parents. Like I said though,it's worked in the past even though we're a commuter school. And it takes time to come back from the way things shook out with the dissolution of the SWC and all the other problems that followed. We have filled the dome on a consistent basis in our heyday though and Houston is on it's way to being even more capable of filling up a large stadium now than in the seventies. We live in the fourth largest city in America.Again,that disconnect between the AD and the President doesn't exist anymore either. Another thing,as I mentioned before the people in power are commmitted to UH returning to the upper ranks of athletics.It makes our city that much more attractive on a national and world level.We are growing...and unfortunately with that comes a vacuumming out of some of our southern hospitality and character,but make no mistake it's happening.Things might not be as friendly across the board these days around town but that's a microcosm of society in my eyes.We are a seat of power not just with having great athletes to pluck from,but with regard to polical ramifications,etc. Speaking of football,look at Oregon(12) and how strong they are.WE turned the ball over a ton in that game and couldn't settle on a QB...plus they were on the road.We were basically even at the half.The Cougars are going to once again going to win CUSA.They will be very strong the deeper into the season it gets...esp. when they settle on a QB. Look at the improvement in the recruiting...esp.... in the lines. More guys are starting to stay home...the programs are on the rise. We have so much talent here just in the Houston area and the Cougars are starting to get talent throughout the state and the CUSA(and SEC) area. Watch what the Hoops team does over the next 5 -6 years. People will come just like before.Both recruits and fans. Do not underestimate why Dave Maggard came here and what he has accomplished in the past.The return has already begun and when they get into the SEC it will be exponentially multiplied.
In '05 Baylor Ranked as the 25th best overall sports program in the country ahead of A&M. Also, watch out for them nationally in Men's Basketball they have had some of the best recruiting in the country the four years since the Dennehy debacle. If any program needs to go based on piss poor athletics it is it is Iowa State.
The current master plan for the campus centers around enclosing the campus tot he surrounding community, blocking off most car traffic, building on the low end of 10,000 beds for campus residents, and developing new commerce all along the scott street corridor as light rail arrives. The vision has changed from what it once was. To give you an idea of how quickly this change is occuring. Since 2001, the number of students staying on campus has doubled in size.
UH probably needs a few more consistent years before they could get into the Big 12 or the SEC. Facilities aren't that big of an issue -- with a commitment from a BCS conference, UH would have the financial security to build a new stadium or significantly upgrade Robertson (build a new level?). As someone mentioned already, Reliant Stadium would work out just fine as a facility while facilities are upgraded on campus. For those who think that support for athletics at UH sucks, you clearly have not been to a UH football or basketball game in the last couple of years. In the wake of a CUSA title, football attendance should only rise. Over the next couple of years, you will also see a significant change in the campus from a commuter atmosphere to a campus atmosphere. If you have been on campus recently, you will see what I mean -- new restaurants and retail being built on or near campus, significant new student housing being built practically every couple of years, new facilities being built every single year. Here is how I see it panning out, however... Iowa State leaves the Big 12 North to go to the Big 10 (which is in talks about expanding to 12) Oklahoma moves to the Big 12 North to help make the Big 12 Championship game relevant again. UH steps into the Big 12 South. This way, Texas and Texas A&M have a better chance at regular appearances in the Big 12 Championship, the Big 12 North becomes more competitive, and the Big 12 gets access to a major alumni base for many of its schools (Houston).
It's certainly possible that UH could eventually end up in a good conference, but seeing how TCU has gotten not even a single sniff from a power conference despite putting together some pretty good seasons over the last several years (they're 64-21 since 2000 with six bowl appearances, relatively consistent appearances in the Top 25 polls and some quality wins against teams like Texas Tech and Oklahoma... and some inexplicable losses against teams like SMU or, this year, Air Force). They have a nice on-campus stadium (currently undergoing a $75 million renovation) and a large local recruiting base that they're beginning to exploit (the D/FW Metroplex is larger than the greater Houston area). And they don't have the "commuter school" stigma that schools like UH have. They still need to work on their attendance, but it has been increasing over the last several years. I know a lot of it is timing (had the Big 12 come together in 1989, for example, there probably would've been a pretty good chance of seeing UH go in instead of someone like Texas Tech), but it appears that it takes more than a few winning seasons to get an invitation into a good conference.
