Excellent point. If you go too far in either direction violence and thuggery become second nature because at that point your cause is more important than the humanity of your opponents (or even your own). The actions of the Brown Shirts weren't much different than the Anarchists in Weimer Germany just like the actions of these "liberal" thugs in New York aren't much than the "conservative" thugs who intimidated and tried to break into the Palm Beach offices doing the recount in 2000. Liberals or Conservatives aren't the problem. Extremists are.
how can anyone like Dean? I mean really? This guy is just a stupid cartoon character. And, I hate how his lips curl in when he speaks. He comes across as a striaght up rude guy. At least kerry is a likable, kind, subdued guy.
It all depends on how it's used. Liberal isn't a bad word, but it's obviously a perjorative in this ad. Again this ad doesn't mention Kerry's stance on any issue, it only tries to label him in a way that might be unflattering. Bush isn't even mentioned at all. There is nothing about Bush's accomplishments, or a specific issue listed as a reason to keep Kerry away.
What's with all this talk about left and right? I didn't realize American voters were in the french revolution. It's an historic allusion that's about as relevant as Federalist and Anti-Federalist or Whig and Tory. And the difference between the Left and the Right then WAS extremism. One thought it was a good idea to start killing off all the wealthy royals and aristoracy in the name of "liberty, fraternity and equality." The other thought they went too far. And then they started getting killed for their moderation. Guess which was which? The term liberal has been misappropriated as well. A Classical Liberal is Friedrich Hayek, not Michael "two-dimensional world view" Moore. Seriously, what's the freaking difference in any collectivist ideology? If you think Hitler and Stalin are opposite ends of an imaginary political spectrum than where are Ze'ev Jabotinsky or Barry Goldwater? And Sam Fisher: So called Anarchists, if they really hated government would be Libertarians. But Libertarians don't get to throw molotv cocktails at stockbrokers and have a much harder time having wild sex with impressionable college girls with manic panic colored hair. It's like Courtney Love and Stravinsky. Both are musicans no one likes. One writes two chord songs, the other experimental symphanies, and neither get much radio play outside the far left end of the FM dial. Basso: Bush's presidency gets these people worked up enough to physically attack Republicans in NY, yet getting attacked by suicidal airliners requires dialogue and reflection from the world community? But then, this is the same crowd that considers free trade to be the world'd biggest threat...
ANOTHER 1,187 liberal protesters were arrested on Tuesday, including one liberal who beat a detective. http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/01/convention.protests/index.html Police arrest 1,100 people in protests Suspect taken into custody in beating of detective From Jonathan Wald and Laura Dolan CNN Wednesday, September 1, 2004 Posted: 10:08 AM EDT (1408 GMT) NEW YORK (CNN) -- More than 1,100 people were arrested Tuesday in protests across New York, including about 200 demonstrators near Ground Zero, police officials said. Police said that 1,187 people were arrested Tuesday in protests surrounding the Republican National Convention. Many were part of a demonstration by the War Resisters League near Ground Zero, where the twin towers of the World Trade Center once stood. Charges range from disorderly conduct, obstruction of governmental administration and resisting arrest, authorities said. Meanwhile, police said they have arrested a man in connection with the beating of a detective in a protest Monday night. Officers grabbed Jamal Holiday, 19, during another demonstration Tuesday night in Lower Manhattan. The night before, police said, Holiday was in a rally outside the United Nations. A group of more than 1,000 people had walked west toward the Madison Square Garden convention site, where there was a clash with police. Detective William Sample was riding through the demonstration on a motor scooter when he was attacked. A freelance photographer caught a man on camera, pushing Sample off the scooter, pummeling him with his fists and then delivering a kick to his head. Sample was taken to St. Vincent's Hospital and then released Tuesday. "He is home recovering," said Detective Noel Waters. The suspect's picture repeatedly had been shown on local newscasts. He was arrested without incident, police said. Near Ground Zero, New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said about 200 people were arrested Tuesday when they disobeyed an order by police to stay on the sidewalk. "The group got bitter" and obstructed traffic after walking into the road, Kelly said. The protesters had gathered near Ground Zero and had begun marching peacefully down Fulton Street near St. Paul's Church when a large contingent of police, including some in riot gear, surrounded them. The police then started pulling people from the crowd, placing them in plastic handcuffs and taking them away. A police bus and van were used to haul them off. "What have I done? What have I done?" shouted one man as he was placed in the police van. Nearby demonstrators who did not participate in the march chanted, "Let them go!" and "Arrest George Bush!" The number of arrests since protests began last week has topped 1,700. In one incident Tuesday night, a protester jumped a fence and ran onto a stage being used by MSNBC during a live broadcast of "Hardball." Host Chris Matthews was on the set with former Environmental Protection Agency chief Christie Todd Whitman, NBC correspondent David Gregory, Newsweek's Howard Fineman and GOP strategist Sheri Annis when the protester leapt onto the stage, ran in front of the camera and charged toward the set. Security personnel grabbed the hooded man. No one was hurt. A crowd of about 1,500 protesters gathered about 7 p.m. Tuesday around Herald Square, a busy shopping district close to Madison Square Garden. A half-hour later, about 15 protesters staged a sit-in at 34th Street and Broadway as police prodded demonstrators back onto the sidewalk. One protester, Cindy Fiore of Connecticut, said, "Truthfully, I hate George Bush. I think he's a terrible person." About 8:30 p.m., the protesters blocked two buses carrying convention delegates to Madison Square Garden before police intervened. They emptied the buses and transported the delegates a different way. The protesters chanted, "This is what a police state looks like," and "The whole world is watching." At one point, protesters also staged a "die-in" in the street, with police having to remove them physically. At least 40 arrests were made. Protesters also carried out acts of civil disobedience at several corporations and banks in conjunction with the Republican convention. Hundreds marched and rallied at the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement office to protest the Bush administration's detention of immigrants. Some marchers wore black hoods and handcuffs to symbolize prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and detainees at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Maia Ramnath, 31, a graduate student from California, took part in the march and said she intended to participate in acts of civil disobedience. "Democracy has been hijacked by the Bush administration, and it's our responsibility to demonstrate," Ramnath said. Twenty protesters were arrested Tuesday morning after they blocked vehicular and pedestrian traffic outside the New York Stock Exchange, police said. About 30 activists wearing pig snouts assembled at a breakfast sponsored by gas and oil supplier Halliburton. The activists accused the Bush administration of favoring Halliburton when it awarded billions of dollars in contracts in Iraq because Vice President Dick Cheney was the company's CEO between 1995 and 2000, immediately before he became President Bush's running mate. Calling the company "Hallibacon," the snout-wearing protesters stuffed fake money with Cheney's image on it into their mouths. Most of those arrested have been taken for processing to Pier 57 on the west side of Manhattan. Many will have to show up Wednesday at Manhattan Central Bookings, police said. The three-story, blocklong pier has been converted to a holding pen especially for those protesting the convention so that city precincts won't be overrun by waves of arrests. The pier can hold 1,000 people and will remain in operation until the end of the U.S. Tennis Open, which runs through September 12.
That is my favorite picture of Kerry ever. He has that look on his face like "Can you believe this crap?"
Most people ever to protest a party convention, Democrat or Republican. Ever wonder why, bigtexx, Faos, et al? Ya think it might be because GWBs policies are destructive to this country? I've got a question for you....why didn't half a million conservative protestors line the streets during the 1996 Democratic Convention? I mean, c'mon, Bill Clinton was getting hummers from an intern. That has an adverse effect on all Americans, don't it? indeed!
I simply don't see a bunch of conervatives yelling and throwing eggs at a DNC. Do you? The term "conservative" tends to dissuade this behavior. And you certainly can't say that about Clinton without remembering the whole "Wag The Dog" episode. That created quite the ruckus.
Maybe if Clinton would have supported a Constitutional Amendment allowing gay marriage, they might have! That's my point....why do Republican administration policies piss so many people off that they march in the streets while Democrat administration policies do not? Doesn't seem fair, does it?
Vocal minority. If soooo many people are against GWBs "destructive" policies, why aren't the polls showing it?
