Are you assuming they are going to continue doubling him if he moves "up the paint?" Maybe they will just let him go to the high post, and not double him then.
I definitely would not double him. Yao facing the basket outside the key or at the edge? Let his man basically face guard Yao, stand right up on his shorts, and pressure him as tightly as possible. Dare him to drive or shoot a fadeaway. As long as he is out of the low post I am not worried. If he tries to drive I like my chances for a turnover.
Haha, I can't even imagine Yao trying to drive by a defender in the high post. Of course they won't double Yao in the high post, so I don't see how driving lanes would be open(besides the fact that Yao is dragging a big away from the basket)
When Yao is down low, there are usually two defenders close by, making the area under the basket crowded, and making his teammates, including McGrady very hard to get to the basket. When Yao moves up high, he draws his man out. And assuming they don't double him, the other defender would be guarding his own man, leaving the area under the basket a lot more space.
just wait and see how they are,geez alot of you complained how boring,lame jvg was,he needs to go etc, no yall arent happy with this, lets give it a chance,lets wait till offseason at least,its not like we hired ainge to run the team or anything
UCLA is the offense that the Utah Jazz runs. It's the play where a big man is placed at the high post, the PG passes to the wing, and the cuts to the hoop for either a post-up, or a give-and-go layup. If that first cut doesn't work, the wing player passes to the high-post big man, who then passes to other players running back out for jumpers. I'm not an expert, and apparently there's a lot more to the offense than that, including some low post plays (based on that UCLA guide somebody else posted earlier in this thread), but the basic play doesn't really get the ball in the hands of the dominant big man down low. But you don't have to run the same system every time down the court. The Jazz use UCLA, but they also run pick-and-rolls, Power offense, and post ups for Boozer.
If he can pull that off as smoothly as you make it sound then I will be pleasantly surprised and pleased. They simply won't double team him before he gets the ball. When he does have it 15-17ft out then he may get swarmed, knowing how cumbersome and turnover prone Yao is it may lead to disaster. Unless he plays significantly more assertive and fluid than we have seen.
. Look! It's JVG reincarnated as Heypartner! "I love the low-post. I want to make love to the low-post. OOOOhhh!" So what if T-Mac cant dominate the low-post? Do we go Battier in the L-P? How about Novakaine?
I guess I did make it sound like I meant to post up T-Mac. All I meant to say was open up the low post area for T-Mac and other wing players to attack...ie, what Aldeman is known for.
That was an assumption. It was an assumption based upon observation and a little extrapolation. Extrapolation since Van Gundy only moved Yao out into a higher post position for 2 reasons...PnR or as part of a longer play where Yao slid down the paint coinciding with perimeter ball movement. If you'll go back and watch Q3 of the Nov 29 '06 PHX game, you will see some of what was mentioned. The Suns shade Yao in the high post (granted...not a true high post) with every perimeter player. They were essentially "crowding" the high post. I haven't and don't intend to read every post in here and don't propose to know what your preference is. However, it's very reasonable IMHO to have some sets where Yao is in the high post...that is efficiency. Should it be recognized that Yao's most effective position is closer to the basket? Certainly. Adelman is smart enough to recognize that. Adelman is also smart enough to know that Wooden adapted his offense to suit Alcindor (Abdul-Jabbar) and Walton. Wooden really disliked having the presence of his two dominant big men moved that far away. Wooden's answer was to start the high post with another player and also to devise sets that started with Alcindor and Walton high and brought them low as the play progressed. A coach who has been to the playoffs 14 of 16 seasons and trained under Jack Ramsay will certainly be aware of how Wooden handled it.
scared to death of change for the worse, which is what change just for the sake of change frequently becomes.
Aren't there different rules about what a defender can do out of the low block (say the high post or the elbow)? I do know refs allow less "incidental" contact while shooting.
Bingo! The key to Adelman is flexibility and adaptation. He's not running the same thing that he ran in Sacramento. They had Vlade Divac and Brad Miller hang out in the high post and the free throw line a lot to find cutters. They ran an offense that was closer to the real Princeton Offense than anything we'll see in Houston. He'll keep Yao in the low post. Any idiot can see that Yao is still hard as hell to guard in the low post. What's different is that we'll see variation. We'll see Yao function like centers in Sacramento every now and then and play in an inverted role where he facilitates the offense by finding cutters and players coming off of screens. We'll see different sets involving different roles. McGrady for example could do the same thing as well. Watch from about 1:18 and see where Yao is positioned in most of those plays. That's what we'll see more of. You can see Yao pass out of the low post to cutters, Yao in the high post, and Yao at the free throw line. Now those plays still aren't truly representative because there isn't the type of movement you'd see in the future but his positioning is somewhat accurate. He'll still play predominately in the low post but you'll see more of the above. http://youtube.com/watch?v=RY5fiHu73zk
