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U.S. Using Nuclear Weapons to Deter Terrorists

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Lil Pun, Sep 11, 2005.

  1. Ottomaton

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    Once you put nukes in play, then every nation that doesn't have nukes would almost be required to get them.

    It seems that some people almost have a pathological inability to understand that any action has unwanted outcomes, that not everybody is in the same position as you are, and people don't see everything from the same point of view as they do.

    The people who want to start using nuclear weapons have to be the same ones who thought that the people in Iraq would all welcome us with open arms, or the same ones who said that it was the fault of the people who stayed in New Orleans because everybody should have been able to escape in their $100,000 SUV.

    Anybody who thinks using nuclear weapons is a good idea doesn't have the slightest ability to model and predict what outcome their own behavior will have on others, or how others will react when approaching a their behavior from another perspective.

    That comes pretty damn close to the definition of Antisocial Personality Disorder(a.k.a. a sociopath). That's scary.
     
  2. AMS

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    funny how you single me and tigermission but totally ignore kingcheeta's sarcastic remarks...

    :rolleyes:
     
  3. robbie380

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    how the hell is this one of the best weapons we have against terrorists? you have no basis for saying that. just give one reason how this weapon is better than conventional weapons and how it allows us to more precisely attack terrorists.
     
  4. rhester

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    www.theinternationalforecaster.com
    Train Wreck of the Week
    By Bob Chapman

    August 21 2005

    The talk in Washington is that Iran needs to be invaded to keep it from developing nuclear weapons when the real reasons are similar to those in Iraq. Take over the oil, set up another strategic position in the Middle East, placate Israel and stop the new Iranian commodity exchange from trading oil in euros, which will destroy the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. The nuking of Iran is really all about economics and resources. It is about petro-dollar recycling. It has nothing to do with WMD, a nuclear program or fighting international terrorism. This is part of the same operation planned for Iraq in the late 1980s and early 1990s; the installation of pro-US governments and military bases before the onset of peak oil. In Iraq to stop selling oil in euros and in Iran to make sure their commodity exchange never opens. All this has to be consolidated by the onslaught of peak oil. Russia is contemplating selling oil in euros. Will the neocons stretched as they are militarily, dare to attack Russia? Very few people realize that in September 2000 Saddam Hussein switched from dollars to euros for oil payment. The US invaded and in June 2003 Iraq switched back to selling oil in dollars. There was no mention of this in the media, as usual. Iran’s opening of a Bourse for oil in euros is far more serious a matter then just selling oil in euros. It is now expected that trading will commence in March 2006 in conjunction with the NY, NYMEX and London’s IPE in regard to oil trades. The NYMEX and the IPE are controlled by international oil companies and by elitists. This exchange allows the euro to gain a firm foothold in the international oil trade. This is seen by US elitists as an encroachment on dollar supremacy and with the weakness of the dollar over the last few years and its negative future due to the wars and current account deficit and debt, trading oil in euros by Iran would soon end the dollar’s vaunted position as the world’s reserve currency. As we write working drafts are being circulated within the administration that layout the neocon invasion and occupation strategy. By using drafts they evade congressional subpoenas and the Freedom of Information Act keeping their intentions away from Congress and the people. Not that Congress gives a hoot – 95% of them are bought and paid for. The new scenario for Iran is the same as it was for Iraq, which has been a failure. Half of the military thinks the neocons are insane, the other half unfortunately go along with this foolish program. Another reason for the Iran program again is it is to be used as a cover for the failing financial system. The neocons know the viability of the US economy is nearing an end. If you look at history you can see the war tactic is used over and over as cover for economic and financial dislocation.

    Worse yet, along with an Iran invasion comes another 9/11 or 7/7 type event to justify the invasion. We are told our VP Dick Cheney wants the Pentagon prepared to launch a nuclear attack on Iran even if the Iranian government has had nothing to do with terrorism or an attack. STRATCOM – Northern Command is preparing along with FEMA to implement martial law in the US if the people rise up to stop the neocon plans. Our government already has 450 sites in Iran that they intend to bomb into the Stone Age. Half the military brass is appalled at what the neocons intend to do. They know it will certainly lead to WWIII and nuclear war. This is an unprovoked nuclear attack. Now you can fully understand why I call these people lunatics. Of course, few of these staff officers will risk damaging their careers by speaking out about such heinous actions. There are grave moral implications but for the most part that historically has never bothered military types. There has been absolutely no effort at diplomacy by the neocons. They can only make their plan work by invasion and occupation. The neocons see no other option. In opposition to such a plan, just two weeks ago the National Intelligence Estimate said, “Iran is about a decade away from manufacturing the key ingredient for a nuclear weapon.” That leaves the glaring question, why would our VP advocate a nuclear attack against Iran even if Iran has done nothing? You, of course, already know. We have outlined it in this article. There is a major elitist effort to stop economic inevitability and stop the demise of US economic supremacy. The dollar is failing and that means the titans that control America and the American people are facing a whole new way of life. They are going to have to face their enormous un-payable debt, which will bankrupt the country. They are trying to avoid this unpalatable situation by imposing global domination at any cost.
     
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    is this article supposed to be a train wreck? is bob chapman a psuedonym for oliver stone or something? just because he is some random guy writing conspiracies for a horribly negative website doesn't mean he is saying anything insightful.
     
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    For one thing, these terrorists aren't normal humans, they do not value human life. The psycological fear factor does not work with terrorists. A nuke is just something else that America can be blamed for/criticized for by terrorist and used to fuel their hate. Nukes only put fear in the eye of the innocent, atleast in my perspective.
     
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    Don't know and don't care, and I personally don't have a view on it.

    I posted it because the article came in a link from an email from another site I enjoy and the topic Chapman wrote about fit this thread.

    If anyone is planning on nuking Iran (if-keyword) I am not for it.
     
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    Sometimes the answer is in plain sight.
     
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    You wouldn't want the police to wipe out a cluster of terrorists near your home with tactical nukes or else you are an idiot.

    But if it's on foreign soil it's a different story right.

    Tell me this, bigtexxx, if tactical nukes contaminated water and food are consumed by a pregnant woman, are you or Mr.Bush or anyone else responsible for this matter gonna raise her deformed children with a hand sticking out his head? Maybe it's good business for you guys, having something to display?

    If your answer is no, and you still insist on the use of tactical nukes, may God have mercy on your soul.

    Don't play with fire children.
     

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