U.S. soldier kills 16 civilians in Afghanistan, Karzai says

Soooo.....


Ron Paul anyone?

 

You don't get it.

For every 1 dollar we spend, we probably lose 80% of it. So you are spending money and getting back 20 cents. Okay, overall you still lose money.

 

Too bad Halberstam's dead and Coppolla's making wine.

 

That would be like trying to put out a fire with a cup of poo.

 

It is not like the troops are not being pulled out. You need an orderly withdrawal even if Ron Paul is elected (never mind the fact that he will never be elected). Next time, think really hard before going into hell holes like Afghanistan.

 

You and I both know if they really wanted out it can be done in a matter of three to four months. Shut down the bases, pack your guns, go home.

As for "he'll never get elected", that's the type of thinking that will ensure that. IMO if you're not 100% sure who you'll be voting for you shouldn't vote at all. If that were the case Ron Paul would win easily. I'm tired of people labeling them selves as Republicans or Democrats and just going off and voting for whoever's popular atm...How about actually listen to what the candidates are saying and forming their own opinions. This **** I just read is precisely why the world hates the US.

Also, the US won't be going anywhere...you're broke. Plus there's no oil or opium in Uganda

 

fixed

 

I would agree with Ron on many foreign policies but his national policies are way too wacky for me, abolish Federal Reserve? Really! Gold Standard? Right!

 

Maybe this is better in the Ron Paul thread but consider that a few months ago people said the exact same thing about Rick Santorum yet he is still winning states why Ron Paul has yet to win one. If there really is a such a strong under reported support for Ron Paul why haven't they shown up at the polls while Santorum supporters have even when for months both candidates were considered also rans?

 

Hey! Didn't Dr. Paul win Wake Island, or one of those other possessions we have out in the Pacific? What are you trying to do, Judo... slander a great American? Belittle his chances of grabbing the Republican nomination? Compare Dr. Paul to the obviously looney Rick Santorum?

For shame!!

 

Yeah... I highly doubt there was just one shooter. Makes no sense, how could one person have the time to shoot 16 people in multiple houses THEN drag multiple corpses to be burned. You would figure the villagers could have defended themselves against one rogue soldier. It just doesnt add up, its afghani's word vs. UN/Nato's word on this issue. Interestingly enough, one of the white house spokes persons didnt even deny it could have been a group. He said "person OR group".

Even if it was one shooter, it is interesting to contrast the responses by the media to this incident in comparison to the lone shooter at ft.hood. One is demonized and hardly cut any slack, while the other has been given every excuse in the book by mass media. Its been virtually the same coverage on this story, " he snapped", he was "under pressure", stress etc. Were those kinds of things being said about the shooter at Ft.hood? Hardly so from what i remember. They wont even put this shooters face on TV, while they showed ft. Hoods shooter's face on tv with no problem. To me it is such a double standard.

As far as his? motives go, i think he did snap. Although, that is no excuse for what he did. Period. Not only should he be held accountable, but those around him who knew he was sick or knew his intentions. We are not talking about someone who was born mentally handicapped murdering someone, we are talking about someone who was cleared for combat (by someone) and went into the deep end. If we let him go lightly, will this become the new defense for those who have committed murder? Every time a soldier in a warzone goes out of is way and murders an innocent person, will the media say,"oh he wasnt a bad guy, he was just under a lot of pressure and snapped. its not his fault..."

Its one thing to place the lives of our people over the lives of others. But to give justice to our people and withold it from others is morally corrupt.

 

I'm curious. Where did you get the idea that we won't be putting this man on trial or punish him or anything like that? I'm sure we will. I don't have a problem believing it was a group, and I don't have a problem saying the guy snapped.

I've also stated that I don't mind withdrawing from Afghanistan. Which scumbag ruler rules over those barbarians is something which doesn't affect our interests after all. With Bin Laden dead, to paraphrase a great man, Afghanistan and all the people in them aren't worth the bones of a single marine. It's a terrible shame.

 

I agree, but sadly i dont think he will get much. Remember the haditha coverup that was exposed?
Here is a short 3 minute CBS clip about american justice.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrYOTSPmrPs

 

They were Saudi and based in Pakistan/Sudan .

The Irony is that the True Narrative has rewritten .

Its sad after spending 2 Trillion dollars on invading Iraq and Afghanistan... all we needed to do was as simple as denying Visa/Green cards to these people.

After 10 years of war ... nothing has changed. The "Stone Age" is still around.

 

"You're" broke. So you're not American, might I ask what country you hail from?

 

Might I ask why you might ask him?

 

Because he's very pro Ron Paul, I've never met a non American who has been Pro Paul, I want to know what the appeal is. Honest question.

 

Most non-Americans that are pro-Ron Paul are pro-Ron Paul because a dramatically smaller number of non-Americans would be expected to die rather than under Obama.

Though I can't speak for anyone else.