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U.S. Open 2009

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Yak, Sep 4, 2009.

  1. across110thstreet

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    the judge didn't decide the game. she lost the point.

    her comments cost her the game.
     
  2. saleem

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    I think Del Potro is playing very well and has a very good chance of winning it,if he can repeat his performance against Nadal.
     
  3. kikimama

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    YES! Let the boys play. You can still play d on someone who travels. If I was defending Lebron on a travel that won the game, I don't blame the refs, I blame myself for not contesting better. You can't control what the refs call but you control what you do. Traveling gets looked over all the time. You must enjoy watching Tony Brothers and Joey Crawford go on their power trips.

    I've seen plenty of star players foul out. The reason why they are star players is because of the fact that they know how to play the refs. ie. how to get away with some calls. it's not always star treatment, it's how they play the refs. They are veterans of the game.

    Rules should not be interpreted the same in every way. It should be interpreted in the context of the situation. Is this really going to matter? Even in the NBA, it is known that if a player is brush fouled, and the ball doesn't go in, he'll get the call but if it rolls in, no call is made.
    So when someone does a sick cross over, they should be auto called for carrying? Because it almost always happens.
    Just as this is a no-call. It's not even obvious that she fouled. If it was, then you may have a case.

    So you're telling me the distant of the camera (that can zoom) and line judge aren't same distance apart? To the human eye, that call can go either way, how is this judge any different? She's an ASIAN + WOMAN (no offense, I'm asian too) but you know how well women make calls in the NBA (I'm looking straight at you Palmer).

    With that said, no one should react like that to a ref no matter how bad the call. You can react to the bad call, but you can't react to the person in a degrading manner in which SW showed.
     
  4. A_3PO

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    Drop the Serena talk? No. According to someone, because "the media" has "sensationalized" it so much, that's the only reason it's controversial, which is why we are talking about it so much. Blame "the media".
     
  5. arno_ed

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    of course I do not like the power trips of those refs, I hate it when the refs let their own emotion get the best of them or when they want to decide the game, because they cherry pick which rules to follow at which times. I support always using the same rules, with every player at every time. Otherwise we should make a rule book that says: A player can make 1 step without dribbling, unless it the last minute of a game, than they can take 4 steps. :rolleyes:

    If they can avoid fouls it is ok but I was talking about refs not giving fouls because it was a star 9star treatment, you cannot tell me you support that?
    Furthermore you should defend them as best you can, but if a player is allowed to take 4 steps and another only 2 than it is an unfair advantage.


    No you call it if the carrying actually happens. Not if it almost happens. Why should he be allowed to carry the ball because the move looks good?


    We do not have the same angle as the woman has, she saw a foot foul, so she called it. Why make exceptions for certain situations. And your argument why she is wrong (which we cannot tell since we do not have the same angle she had) is because she is a Asian woman? Brilliant argument

    I do agree with you here. I do not believe the refs decided the game, she made a call (which could be right call, and i like to give her the benefit of the doubt), Williams lost it and decided the game 9which she would probably have lost anyway.
     
  6. Honey Bear

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    Can I ask you a personal question? When you wake up in the morning and look in the mirror... what do you see?

    You just don't get it. You came in here wanting to be a drama queen (with your emotions riled up by a woman's tennis game, nonetheless) and unable to understand the bigger picture, you scratch away. The media was sensationalizing the fact that Serena lost without lifting her racket. As if Clijsters wasn't clearly the better player, they were focusing on Serena being "cheated" out of playing the final point. Only recently have they started to focus more on the punishment Serena should receive than the actual result. How petty of you to try and distort the original point so you can ramble on about nothing.
     
  7. juicystream

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    In a sport known to cut down people while they would be in their prime in most other sports, I would expect these nagging knee problems will cost Nadal what could have been an all-time great career.
     
  8. Kyrodis

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    I personally advocate consistent calls. If someone foot-faulted, they foot-faulted...regardless of whether it was at the beginning of the match or near the end.

    You guys can see on this video as clear as day that Serena foot-faulted. At around 0:15 in, her heel (almost the entire back half of her foot) crossed over the line.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdYgc8DobUY
     
  9. BiGGieStuFF

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    The heel can be over the line like that as long as it doesn't touch the line. tons of players have part of their foot hovering over the line when they serve.
     
  10. Kyrodis

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    Hmm...my bad then. Maybe it's the angle, but it looked to me almost like she was dragging her heel across instead of keeping it elevated and hovering over the line.
     
  11. BiGGieStuFF

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    They showed this angle yesterday. Still hard to see but it wasn't a clear foot fault. If anything it was a touch foul on a player trying to heave a full court shot at the end of the game.

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  12. A_3PO

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    Blaming the media for any of this is nonsense. Pure and simple nonsense. They reported on a sensational event. Losing match point on a disqualification IS sensational and "the media" had nothing to do with it. Who in "the media" said Serena was cheated? Did you actually hear/read that on Sportscenter or a website?
     
  13. BigM

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    Nadal could never play another tennis match and will still go down as an all time great. He has SIX major championships.

    If injuries don't limit him him he could go down as one of the top 2 or 3 ever to play the game, but unfortunately what makes him great is also what's going to break him down.

    It also makes what Federer does even more impressive. So smooth and flawless in his technique, it's going to be hard if not impossible for another player to match his accomplishments, simply for his longevity. The way he's playing now, he'll most likely be adding to it and putting it far far out of reach.
     
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  14. BrooksBall

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    Wow, Del Potro wins the 4th set.

    I remember watching this guy last year and not thinking he would ever be able to take that next step.

    Federer will likely still pull it out but a really impressive run for Del Potro either way.
     
  15. juicystream

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    Zero US Opens and Zero Australian. I'm talking about in the class of Laver, Sampras, Federer, & Agassi. I think he would have won the career grand slam for sure which would have helped cement him on that level.
     
  16. BrooksBall

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    Great post. Agreed with everything.

    Federer is the GOAT but Nadal is also a very special player that could never play another match and go down among the greatest ever. He's already considered by many to be the greatest clay court player of all time.
     
  17. BrooksBall

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    He won the Australian this year, bro.

    You're right though, he may end up a notch below the best of the best.

    Agassi was my favorite player but I'll admit that Nadal has a pretty good chance of accomplishing more than him. I wouldn't put a U.S. Open out of the realm of possibilities. At one point, nobody thought he could win Wimbledon or an Australian either.
     
  18. KingCheetah

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    This is awesome !
     
  19. BrooksBall

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    Del Potro trying to shock the tennis world. My guess is Federer turns it up a notch and breaks back.
     
  20. aussie rocket

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    Whats the score??

    At work, cannot see.
     

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