He has some passing skills and he's a great defender. Where did you get the idea that he's a terrible defender? He's also one of the best players off the dribble and taking it to the basket. He has a lot of talent and I have no idea where all the hate is coming from. This has all been discussed in other threads already.
The only so-called "facts" you have besides the ones I listed are wishing thinking about his future. Duh, yeah it's theoretically possible this can change even though it hasn't at all in 3 years. Duh, yeah it's theoretically possible these can change if he's put in the "right situation". If only I had a nickel for every time someone used that as an excuse. Here you go again. His ROY award doesn't amount to a hill of beans. It's 3 seasons later and he's the same flatlined player except the universe doesn't revolve around him now. Nobody in the NBA cares about ROY 2009 except you and maybe a couple of others. It's irrelevant.
So you gave him all of 3 seasons to change? How kind of you. Here is the list of ROY winners... Irving Griffin Evans Rose Durant Roy Paul Okafor James Stoudamire To say that Tyreke is not a good player is just dumb. On a halfway decent team, he can thrive. Hes an asset, and I want him.
~His eFG% was 47% last year so dog him all you want but hes putting up great numbers at an efficient rate. ~He assisted on 22% of his teammates FG's last year, so claim hes not a great passer, but that isnt true either.
Like I said earlier, in the last 23 games of the season this year, Tyreke shot 16 three-pointers total. During that time, his FG% was an outstanding 51%. He's had two major issues in his game ever since he was drafted. One of them was bad shot selection. If he keeps playing like he did in the last 23 games, I think you can throw that issue out the window. That leaves his only other issue... trying to do too much. Unfortunately, he still dribbles a lot and turns the ball over quite a few times. That's something he definitely needs to fix, but I'd love to take the chance on him figuring it out. At the end of the day, he'd give this team two things it definitely doesn't have.... Good size at the SG position to play defense (6-6, 220 lbs.), and the ability to break down the defense off the dribble.
Below is what I posted in another thread. Draft Wroten if you really like Tyreke. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tony-Wroten-5250/ http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tyreke-Evans-1110/ Tyreke Wroten Height w/o shoes: 6'4" 6'4.75" Wingspan: 6'11.25" 6'9" Max Vert: 34" 35.5" Both are one and done big PG's with excellant shot creating ability and bad perimeter shooting. Phisically Tyreke has longer wingspan but he's shorter in height with less vertical. Both excelled in scoring/rebounding/steals and their freshman number in those categories are almost the same. Year League Team GP Min Pts Reb Asts Stls TOs Tyreke 2008/09 NCAA Memphis 37 29.0 17.1 5.4 3.9 2.1 3.6 Wroten 2011/12 NCAA Washington 35 30.3 16.0 5.0 3.7 1.9 3.8 Both are ball dominant players and can get to the rim drawing fouls at high rate. They also share the high TO rate because they are not the 'true' PG's. Wroten has some trouble going right at this stage. However, he does have a few advantages: 1) He's younger than Tyreke as a rookie when their rookie season starts(19 vs 20). 2) He's more explosive and relentless attacking the basket(7.5 vs 5.2 FTA freshman year). 3) Tyreke has 'proven' he can't improve his shooting(25%, 29%, 20% 3pt shooting last three years) and assisting(never achieved 2:1 assist/to ratio in last 3 years or even show noticeable improvement there). Wroten still has the 'potential' to improve. 4) Currently projected as late first rounder(#30 on draftexpress), Wroten will probably cost less to acquire(or we can trade down), and his salary will be a fraction of Tyreke's. We can draft Wroten in late first or early second, but shouldn't touch Tyreke let alone using any asset to acquire him IMO.
Why is Sac giving up on him? Either they believe his value has peaked, or they don't want to extend him, or he is not getting along with Cousins. I think it's probably a combination of the first two. That the Kings don't think he's worth a big contract and want to trade him before things get ugly. So the Rockets take the bait, give him his big payday and then pray he lives up to it. No thanks.
Every once in a while there is a rookie of the year winner like Derrick Coleman, super talented guy that just won't improve his game or play team ball. Tyreke Evans is Derrick Coleman reincarnate.
If Morey has shown one thing for sure during his time here, it's that he doesn't just hand out big paydays and hope for the best.
Ricky Davis type player. He can put up gaudy numbers but doesn't have the talent to build a team around or be a core player.
But agents don't like that, and word gets around, which makes Morey's plan to build a contender through free agency all the more baffling.
Tyreke is coveted by Morey and co. He is who they hoped TWil would become when they made that trade. Which also means that they would be extra cautious before drafting an Evans/Twil clone.
I understand what you are saying, but I am going to have to disagree. I feel like Reke is on a higher level than Ricky. Reke is much more well rounded, just needs some polishing. I feel with some hard work and a little bit of elbow grease, A good team (hopefully Rockets) can get Reke looking better than before.
I just dont know how Tyreke's game would fit here. I mean he plays like a Poor Mans Brandon Roy( in the sense, that he can make insane layups, and has the strength to finish AND1 opportunities). On the other hand, his jumpshot is flat and is unreliable. So i dunno
Just need to get him to work on his jump shot more. Rondo has worked wonders on his jump shot, Westbrook worked on his jump shot, Derrick Rose worked on his jump shot, and now all of them are deadly jump shooters (Rondo might be a stretch on that part). Point is, his jump shot can be worked on. And I feel once he gets that fixed, Reke will be one of those special players to watch
Again, if getting Evans is part of the "price" we pay for the 5th pick of this draft, then who cares? Maybe he works out, maybe he doesn't. The pick is what matters, in my opinion, and what we'd have to give up to acquire it. I can't imagine getting Evans unless he's part of a larger deal involving the pick.
Reports are they want a lot for Tyreke. They view the #5 and Tyreke as separate assets and by no means are angling to package them together. If he is part of the "price" than he is going to make the price a lot steeper.
Meh, I gave you facts. More than saying I've seen him play and not like his game. Numbers, his FG% being better than the players he'd be replacing. The fact he won ROY. The fact that a lot of his struggles in his 2nd year was likely due to a foot injury that doesn't easily go away (look at Mario Williams who had the very same injury...and funny enough people still criticized his play then). I'm giving more than just saying he's a ballhog and selfish and trying to discredit his stats and accomplishments. Also it's been 2 seasons since his ROY campaign, not 3. One of those seasons he was again playing with an injury. His previous season was not bad or a step back, he was moved around a lot and asked to change his game some so you can expect some troubles there. Either way a coach has a lot to do with a young players development and the Kings have had some of the worse coaches. The only worry I'd have is that Mchale may not develop players well, just because we don't have much to go by...although Parsons and Dragic have turned out well.
Bad comparison with Coleman (right now), it was more of a heart issue and going through motions of the NBA (getting his check). Coleman did not have to try hard to be a good NBA pro, he just didn't. I cannot make that judgement about Evans, quite yet. He's still fairly young, not an outstandingly troubled player, and some possess great basketball skills. Has above average numbers across the board for a guard,has playmaking skills, and he can create for himself off the dribble.
