Typical: Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

Neither was/has been convicted of anything but almost everybody believes they did it anyway.

 

Baseball and its partisans have made an effort to belittle Bonds or turn their back on him.

Whether it was deserving or not - I don't see what he owes people who have largely dismissed him and belittled his accomplishments.

If his home runs are meaningless than why are people clamoring to donate his bat? It is meaningless too, right?

If I were Bonds I would do the same thing. If Baseball doesn't want to acknowledge me then what is my responsibility to give back to it?

 

Read "Game of Shadows" and read about how he treated people.

It isn't illegal to be an azzhole..but people don't deserve to be treated the way he treats people.

 

They really don't pitch to him now.

 

I don't wish he would die, but a nice case of herpes wouldn't be out of the question.

 

I think race is probably the least reason that people don't want him to break the record. It may play a part with some people, but for the most part I think it's because he cheated (there is no argument left against this, HE JUICED), and because he's an ass.

If it were Ken Griffey Jr. breaking the record, it would be a lot different.

I don't wish death upon anybody ... but wouldn't it be sweet if karma took effect and he blew out a knee or something that would end his career a bomb or two short of the record?

 

That would be too cool!

 

My thoughts on Barry Bonds. Of all the players that I've seen play, Bonds was the second best natural hitter, second only to Griffey. From the time he was in Pittsburgh, he was going to be one of the greatest players to ever play the game. He was a jackass to the media, and he was rumored to be a lousy teammate, but the guy could play.

So that puts him in a different category than McGwire, Sosa, and the Giambi brothers. None were ever considered among the greatest to play the game. McGwire really only did one thing well, and then, since he rarely played a whole season, I always considered him a net negative on the Cardinals. He was really a sideshow more than a baseball player. Sosa was better, but nowhere close to Bonds's caliber. Besides, Sosa plays the "dumb jock" routine well enough that it lowers our expectations of him. Giambi never would even merit HOF talk. He doesn't belong in this conversation at all. There is another player, but we'll get to that in a minute.

So this great natural talent who was a bit of a jackass cheated. He swelled to an unnatural size, and he began hitting balls further than anyone else had before. (Unless you believe the legends about Josh Gibson.) Teammates began openly complaining about him being a jackass and dragging so many tagalongs into the clubhouse with him. He drew further into himself, and did nothing to endear himself to me or most baseball fans. Then we get undeniable evidence, very detailed, that virtually proved that he cheated. It somehow justifies all of this dislike that I and most baseball fans have had for him. The fact that he's in the spotlight for the record chase just brings back the feelings, it doesn't create them.

I certainly respect Bonds's career. But I don't respect him as a person, and I understand Hank Aaron's and MLB's disrespect.

[The one other player that I mentioned: Roger Clemens. Unlike Bonds, though, no one has made a special effort to prove (or disprove for that matter) that he ever used steroids. Any suspicion has been just that, suspicion. And even though he was a jackass to the media and opposing players, he has always had the utmost respect from his teammates. And besides, as great of a career as Roger has had, he's not chasing any hallowed records.]

 

I think the guy is a total ass, but with the way he's been treated by baseball, I hope he doesnt give anything back.

 

i agree that would be humorous in a way.

what you said about he should die. thats just messed up, really is. there are a lot of mean people out there. but whatever he has done in my opinion may come back to him.

but wanting him to die is just weird.

maybe wanting his career to be in ruin. or for it to completely come out that he took every steroid in the book is one thing. but saying you really want him to die is just like i said *weird*

 

waiting for someone to throw in the words "classless" and or "class" in this thread.


i personally dont give a **** about steriod Bonds.

 

Hmm, so the MLB commissioner still doesn't know if he will be present when Bonds breaks the sports biggest record...yet Barry should donate his stuff after he breaks the record? Isn't that ass backwards.......

 

i don't think people realize how great bonds was those few years, i mean 2007 craig biggio is closer to 2006 lance berkman in OPS then 2006 berkman is to bonds best year

 

The commissioner is an ass.

As long as he allows Barry to play, and as long as Barry's home runs count in games he has to accept defeat (if that's what he wants to call it) and buck up and honour the record. The homeruns Barry's hitting today count, so the record will fall. As it should...unless they can stop him from playing.

Oh...and Barry should donate his stuff. Two wrongs and all that. Baseball been berry berry good to him. Current treatment notwithstanding...

 

people remember but they also know he was obviously cheating. biggio and berkman i highly suspect didn't/don't use the roids but who knows.

unless you're talking pre-steroid bonds.

baseball and selig are as culpable/stupid as bonds is so i don't really have a side in this story. selig is best off just going to the thing and honoring the record, it looks a lot better than the alternative.

 

ive read game of shadows...that doesnt call for comments like "i wish he was dead"

i hate to get political but Presidents have done more harm than Barry Bonds

 

And it is a race issue. Trust me...If this was McGwire, people would not care as much. He would not get death threats, and ignorant ass people on this board would not want him dead. Race has a lot to do with it. There are a lot of racist people in America, and Bonds being black doesnt help him in certain ballparks...and i think those people would be rooting for McGwire to beat Aaron's record.

I hate John Stockton. I dont want him dead.

 

Of couse. Griffy is easy to root for. You'd root for any soft spoken guy...and Griffey is not on sterroids......What if it was McGwire. I guarantee not as many people are mad...