Very good point. LeBron and Wade took, what, half a season(?) to get used to each other the first year they were playing together. IMHO, Harden will get his touches on this team no matter what. Ty'd just play his agressive game, distribute the ball around, and Harden will get his loaded shooting share (hopefully most spot-ups).
Hes definately good but Mcasshole can't get Harden to play off the ball and let Ty run the offense. I'm very happy with him
As others said it's like the Wade/Lebron situation where both players are at their best dominating the ball. While Harden is a great playmaker especially for a 2, Ty is an elite playmaker and is much much better at controlling turnovers. Ty needs to run the offense and Harden needs to play off the ball.
He also stated how he thinks it will take a while for Ty to gel into the offense, which I think is getting better each game. Guys are trying to adjust to just be alert with TY on the floor, most guys aren't ready for a quick assist outside of hardens playmaking
The 1st 3 games were difficult to watch, but The 4th game things started to click. I'll enjoy the patriculation process, but I don't expect to see a smooth product till Feb. or March if this season. Remember we'll have to incorporate DMo later on.
I have been following Ty Lawson almost from the time he came into the league. Dude is a double -double machine and a much better player he has shown to be so far. Like others have pointed out, it is going to take some time until real chemistry can be developed between Harden and Lawson, but it will come. I am more concerned with the bench play and I am not all opposed to have Lawson come out from the bench and be the floor general I know he can be. The bench players cannot simply lose leads like nothing. We got to fix that.
I am fine with Harden running the show. He is a better playmaker than Lawson and our offense is best run through him. When Harden sits, Lawson should be running things. But I trust Harden with the ball more than anybody else on this team. This isn't to say that Lawson should never bring the ball down if Harden is in, but Harden should be the point man the majority of the time.
He's obviously not quite sure what his role is yet. It's going to take time. The more and more the team expresses their belief in him, the quicker it will be, I think.
yeah lets be honest people, its 6 games in to the season, it won't be until the last half of the season until we if he is a positive or negative to this team. But so far I think he is doing ok, given his ball usage rate.
Count me in as someone who thinks making Harden play off the ball is incredibly stupid. He is not an off the ball player, he is an MVP caliber player when he spams high pick and rolls. Trying to claim he is going to get better by taking the ball out of his hands is a fantasy.
He needs to be in attack mode ALL the time IMO. We need him and Harden going downhill either setting up open shots or shots for themselves. We can't be having another Bev. We'd be wasting a talented facilitator if Ty were to be spotting up all the time for Harden.
Mcdumb is probably incapable of integrating Ty into the offense. It's the same old give it to Harden and go spot up while he dribbles the air out the ball
I disagree. Lawson through his history has shown to take care of the ball better than Harden. Harden is one of few guys who plays well off the ball. Lawson asst to t/o is much,much better than Harden. Harden to's the ball too much for my liking. He's in SF3 category in terms of ball protection.
It's funny how the whole board and Harden himself were crying how we needed another playmaker to make Harden's life easier. Now we got Lawson and some people say it's stupid to take the ball out of Harden's hands.
This. Thoroughly underwhelmed. Sometimes invisible out there. More blame though on the other ball dominant guard & the coaching staff. Top 10 PG, so says Clutchfans, and those same folks probably want to bring him off the bench. LOL In what world are [Paul, Curry, Westbrook, Wall, Irving, Lilliard, Dragic, Lowry, Parker, Conley, Teague, and/or Rose first guys listed in that thread coming off the bench? Oh right, never. Curry with Thompson, Westbrook with Durant, Wall with Beal, Irving with LeBron, Dragic with [previously Bledsoe & now] Wade, Lowry with DeRozan & Ross, Rose with Butler,...so on and so forth but bring this "top 10" point guard off the bench! :grin: Rockets already had a point guard to stand & camp at the 3 point line in Beverley. Remember when Goran Dragic didn't want to come last deadline? Dragic is a diva, Dragic doesn't care about winning blahblahblah And this too.
That's false. Lawson is a career 15.2% TO guy, Harden is 14.4% We did need another ball handler....to play through when Harden is on the bench. Taking the ball out of your MVP's hands is incredibly stupid.