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TX Budget Approved. UT tutition to go up at least 50%.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Jun 3, 2003.

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  1. glynch

    glynch Member

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    GreenVegan -- you really believe that don't you? you really believe a president controls the economic cycles....

    A red herring, Max.

    YOu can make deficits worse by having tax breaks when the economy is good like Dubya did in Texas. Then when the economic cycle turns down you have no surplus to help make up for budget deficits caused by the downturn in the economic cycle.

    This shouldn't be too hard. Let's try this. A man is in a small business. He's been doing it for awhile, so he knows that sometimes he makes good money; sometimes not. When he has a good month or two he puts some aside to pay for expenses when he has a bad month or two.
     
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    BTW. good thing I just signed up for the Texas Guaranateed Tutiton Plan prior to the 5/23/03 deadline. :) Fortunately I could see the writing on the wall with the deficits.

    Still don't like its effect., though I am immune from it. That is assuming that the Repubs don't try to renig on the Texas Guaranteed Tutition Plan. I see the conservatives are trying to do this in Colorado, but I don't think it will happen in TX for at least awhile.
     
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    I know where my college's finances keep going...to the SORRY ASS ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT!!!. I swear Arkansas State University needs to downsize to NAIA because we are definitely not a Division I caliber program! Yet they keep getting new stuff for the athletics such as a new track complex, new scoreboard and jumbotron for the football stadium, new soccer fields, the damn list goes on and on! :mad:
     
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  4. MadMax

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    I understand that, glynch...but the problem is that the economy was already beginning to tail off before Bush ever took office. The idea that Clinton was a miracle worker for the economy and that Bush has run the economy into the ground makes little sense to me. Things work in cycles...we can question the tax cuts...but that didn't cause the problem in the first place.

    As for the small business owner...certainly a relateable example! :) But the difference is that the small business owner makes that determination, maybe with the assistance of partners if he has any. People voted in Bush knowing they were voting for tax cuts...people voted in representatives and senators who were onboard with that as well. Bush, alone, does not get tax cuts passed.

    Basically, all I'm saying is that the president does not control the economy...no president does.
     
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    Madmax, perhaps I was unclear. When Bush was Governor of Texas, the economy was good and he had tax cuts, failing to plan for a rainy day. These cuts have had a significant role in the tuition increases and cuts for such service as the thousands of poor kids who are thrown off of the CHIPS pProgram. I wasn't talking about his actions after he assumed the Presidency. Please note Bush's tax cuts in TX were a year or two before he left the governorship.

    I wasn't really talking about Bush after he became president, though the Federal budget cuts are further aggravating state deficits.
     
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    oh...gotcha..sorry...i misunderstood you.

    i think that's fair criticism...you and i might disagree on the need or benefit of tax cuts...but from that perspective, that criticism makes sense.
     
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