Two More Women Accuse Neil deGrasse Tyson of Sexual Misconduct

Wait, why are astrophysics political now?

 

NDT isn't a public official interviewing for a lifetime appointment.

 

The point of the thread was about if we should "believe all women" and ruin the careers of those they accuse of sexual misconduct. I don't think anyone suggested that NDT was a public official or that he was running for a lifetime appointment so that's not really relevant to this thread.....unless you are suggesting that's the only instance where we should "believe all women" and ruin the careers of those they accuse.

 

I don't buy it. And even if it were true, it was at an after-party? What does "felt up" actually mean? Did he rape someone?

Non story.

 

worse. he's "King of the Cosmos"

https://playboysfw.kinja.com/the-king-of-the-cosmos-a-profile-of-neil-degrasse-tyso-1542682361

 

It was at an after-party? What does "felt up" actually mean? Did he rape someone? Where is the actual evidence of some wrong doing. People's careers are being destroyed based on a he said, she said - that's not a proof of anything. Some actual evidence would be nice for a change.

 

His point was merely that people want to use their brains about these kinds of situations when there isn't a political motivation to simply "believe all women" instead.

 

Oh, okay. That's fair.

P.S. Also, are we 100% sure there isn't any political motivation here? The conspiracy theorist in me says there's at least a remote possibility that someone wants NDT, an enemy of climate change deniers, discredited. I know sexual misconduct shouldn't impact what we think of NDT's intelligence, but it would undoubtedly shrink his platform to reach people.

 

Your outrage is noted

 

Sorry, I didn't follow the Kavanaugh story almost at all. But in general, evidence is always a nice thing to have before condemning someone.

 

Yes, according to a few accusers, he did rape them after drugging them.

 

hadn't heard about this allegation previously so looked it up . . . the accuser in this case has a photograph of the accused in his apartment from that time period (which is obviously evidence but not proof).

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nosac...ns-rape-accuser-gives-first-public-interview/

 

It is not just them. It is all scientists. Science has a liberal bias, doncha know?

 

First of all, the poll options are completely ridiculous, so I'm definitely not participating in that. But to the question at hand, just like everything else in life, you have to look at these accusations on a case-by-case basis. When one accuser comes forward against someone and then many others start coming forward with accusations (ie Cosby, Weinstein, Lauer, etc.), then that's a pretty good indication of those individuals' guilt, although they are obviously still entitled to due process legally. On the other hand, when just one or two accusers come forward against someone and that's it, then I typically find those accusations to be more susceptible to scrutiny and/or more likely to not actually be true as the men who engage in this sort of behavior typically have a pattern of it extending over the course of years towards many women, but obviously there can be exceptions.

Kavanaugh kind of fell in between these two standards as he had multiple accusers but only one (Ford) ended up seeming all that credible to me. I always thought the timing of it was fishy as well but I try not to question things like that too much since I'm a male that never faces the type of harassment that many women often face (sometimes on a daily basis) and have to deal with over time. Ultimately, my guess is that Kavanaugh was a heavy partier back in the day who likely engaged in some behavior with his buddies that they didn't think anything of but that might have had a significant impact on someone like Dr. Ford.

I haven't read much about the accusations against NDT, although I'm more inclined to pay close attention to accusations against someone being appointed to a lifetime position on the Supreme Court than against an astronomer who occasionally shows up on TV. Having said that, if these accusations turn out to be true, then he obviously should face the consequences for them.

 

Such a weird statement. I guess 'scientists' and the 'left' go hand in hand? I suppose the right is anti NDT?