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[TwinCities.com] Eddie Griffin close to signing with Wolves 5M per

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Deuce, Jul 12, 2005.

  1. JuanValdez

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    Gadzuric is a decent role-player who will never be worth $6 million. Griffin has personal baggage holding back but would be a star power forward if he can get his house in order. Gadzuric is the safer bet, but I'd rather gamble on the guy who could potentially really be something.
     
  2. francis 4 prez

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    man, JV picked the wrong day to start dissing dan gadzuric.
     
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  3. padgett316

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    That's absurd. Gadzuric's numbers alone are better than Griffin's, not even taking character into consideration. Griffin's yet to prove that he's worth even a fraction of his "upside" potential, and it's quite clear what his "downside" potential is, and it's certainly not worth $5M/year for multiple years.
     
  4. SamFisher

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    I would; Gadzuric is easily better if you're looking for a backup power forward to do the traditional dirty work of inside scoring and rebounding. If you want some joker to jack up 3's and misses layups and plays godawful, sieveish defense (yes, 1 or 2 weakside shot blocks are great - but does it make up for getting abused down low at will? doubtful.) then you'd have to think that Griffin was better.

    emjohn is right, this might be the most crackheaded deal of the year.
     
  5. gucci888

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    Eddie played very well for the T-Wolves last season. He gives them defense and a decent outside shot, something that both Ervin Johnson and Kandi couldn't do to save their lives.

    5M/year is quite a bit though, if Eddie can get 5M, I wonder what the other PFs will want.
     
  6. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Thank you sir! :)
     
  7. SamFisher

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    bad defense.
     
  8. apostolic3

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    I want to know how many years of this contract are guaranteed and what other stipulations may be in it to protect the T-Wolves before commenting.
     
  9. JoeBarelyCares

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    Goes to show you can style make money in sports if you have the hype. Tyson stole money from the buying public for the past decade, based on past potential.
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    That is a reasonable deal, and I will open up a big bag of "told ya so's" as he develops.

    Lots of players come into the league with problems and then change....Barkley for one, and many others.

    I wish him luck, and don't mind him not being on the Rockets.

    DD
     
  11. SamFisher

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    Givn that his trajectory has been an anchor, I doubt it. You are aware he just had his worst season ever, statistically, right?

    Anyway, you blew your wad and hit the lottery earlier this year with Nachbar. I suggest you put the bag in the closet next to your Dan Langhi jersey.
     
  12. AMS

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    Good move for the Twolves, I always liked the wolves as a team but started to dislike the management after the joe smith fiasco, but when they signed up eddie g, i felt like the people in charge do have balls and know what to gamble on and what not to....

    kudos to griff and to the wolves.

    eddie had a good year last year, he freaking put up as many 3's as he did blocks... and people say that horry is soo good. ugh, id take griff over horry any day(that is in this stage of their careers)
     
  13. redgoose

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    I have to admit i saw a couple of the Wolve's games on TNT with Griffin playing. He was making impact plays. He was blocking shots, protecting the weak side making KG's game seems alot easier, i saw him tie up a guy, and dive for a loose ball. He also looked like he put on some weight.

    If he could just bash up front a little more, he'd be everything we need. (not exactly a new breakthrough analysis) He plays good ball w/o needing the ball in his hands.

    To be honest, i wish he was a Rocket in this system. I think he could flourish. If not, we still shoudn't of smeared his image so we might have been able to trade him for someone else.
     
  14. micah1j

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    Who is we? It was Griffin who shot at that girl. It was Griffin drinking all the alcohol/doing drugs. It was Griffin who screwed his life up and screwed the Rockets over. :mad:
     
  15. DaDakota

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    LOL...wanna bet?

    DD
     
  16. AMS

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    But it was us pulling the only thing working right in his life ffrom underneath him.

    When a baby's stumbling you dont look the other way, you put your hand forward to try and help it straighten out.
     
  17. DallasThomas

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    Just like Rockets fans and Mike James. When he stumbled through some games taking shots that might have been better suited for Tracy or Yao, we should have coddled him and encouraged him to work a little better within a system he's never been through traning camp with instead of booing him.
     
  18. AMS

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    The difference is that Eddie Griffins main problems were offcourt, and Mike James main problems are oncourt :D

    Plus, Eddie was always the 3rd or 4th option, and never even tried to be more because of his nature. Mike should have been the 3rd or 4th option, but because of his nature tried to be the first or 2nd go to guy... big difference.
     
  19. Williamson

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    I can't agree with this. I'm trying very hard to be respectful, but I just find this ridiculous. The Rockets showed an enormous amount of faith in Eddie Griffin when they traded three first round picks for him. He owed them. Not the other way around. They gave him an oppurtunity to straighten things out with him and he failed to show up. How in the world is that on the Rockets?

    Eddie Griffin was getting paid millions of dollars and couldn't keep his head on straight, and believe it or not, that's part of what they're paid to do. He under-performed. He fell short of expectations on the court. He failed to keep it together off the court and he actually said at one point he was considering quitting basketball. I'm somewhat sympathetic to him in regards to the pressure he was under and the off the court issues he was facing, particularly the loss of his brother, but that doesn't give a person an excuse to piss away what most people wouldn't dare dream of. Eddie Griffin damn near did that. He's incredibly fortunate to still be in the league.

    With all that said, neither you nor I know what steps the Rockets took to help Eddie off the court. They may have done everything they knew to do, they may have done absolutely nothing. I have no idea and you have no idea. We do know that Eddie was the one who fired that gun that night and Eddie was the one who failed to meet with Van Gundy and the Rockets to try to work something out. Regardless, of what the Rockets did or didn't do, they were in no way responsible for what happened to Eddie. He has only himself to blame for that, and he should thank his lucky stars every day he lives and breathes that he got another chance somewhere.
     
  20. MFW2310

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    I'll say... he impacted the Wolves all the way to the lottery.

    Speaking of which, when does this EG fiasco end? When and where (let's say age wise) do you draw the line and say that OK, you're "out of" potential.
     
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