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[TV] Westworld Season 4

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by GRENDEL, May 10, 2022.

  1. Reeko

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    I was gonna drop Westworld in S1 because it was moving so damn slow…glad I didn’t

    S4 is pure greatness…S4 is Hakeem in 94 so far
     
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  2. Xerobull

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    They need to make a Waterworld series next.
     
  3. GRENDEL

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  4. Invisible Fan

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    One thing that doesn't add up for me is if bernard slept for 7 years then how does that add up to the 20 years jessie was gone
     
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    I may have missed this but how exactly is Bernard able to see the future now? I get that he was asleep, but how does being asleep make you see what happens to the world in the future? Also how did Stubbs just wait around for 30 years and didn’t age? What the hell was he doing for all this time?
     
  7. Bandwagoner

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    He is a host

    The Indian tought bernard how to see all possible future scenarios. Its like a Dr. Strange situation.
     
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  8. Invisible Fan

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    Last season introduced the two big balls as being able to model the world and predict deterministic events. That's also why everyone wants Westworld data, because it backed up rich folks thoughts and could drive even more accurate predictions through sims.

    I assume that Host Sanctuary Bernard went into has enough computing power to run those simulations.

    Not sure how Bernard treats these as minute by minute predictions (dig here...no here...), but rolling with it and hoping they explain more.
     
  9. Bandwagoner

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    Sorry I just want to say seasons 2 and 3 were **** and this season rules and no one is watching it.

    It will probably be the last season so this blows. like what a tragedy.
     
  10. Reeko

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    slow episode today, but next week looks like it will be firing on all cylinders
     
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    Started S4 this past weekend; it's been fantastic so far. I won't lie; I had to find a recap of S3 on Youtube to start and I do have to consult the Westworld wiki after each episode to understand what I just saw but it's been great. ERW no matter how crazy she is, is still very hot
     
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  12. Invisible Fan

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    It's like a different take on the matrix but really love questioning what motivations are behind the characters.

    Like why Hale rebuilt D...out of revenge, an ideal life that burned Hale can't live anymore?

    Seems like these bots are growing souls that 1s and 0s can't compute. What is a bot's hierarchy of needs? Maybe that's a good thing if humanity don't want to be doomed.
     
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    after this season i will need to watch a recap off all 4 seasons preferably all in one video and made after the completetion of this season. I'm sure im missing a lot.
     
  14. TheRealist137

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    Another good episode. My main questions

    1. What purpose does Christina have and why does she have to be the one writing everyone's stories?
    2. Christina's boss, how does he know about / suspect that she has questioned the nature of reality? I thought maybe he was a host working for Hale, but then Christina was able to control him, suggesting that he was a human. Who's side is he on?
    3. Why did host William nonchalantly allow the enlightened human to talk to him? It wasn't even accidental, he gave her enough time to talk to him.
    4. What does it mean to "transcend", I saw it has something to do with taking your brain chip out, is it the host's version of heaven?
     
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  15. Invisible Fan

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    My take on it is because it's Hale (Wyatt's) form of poetic and beautiful justice.

    Delores's role in the theme park was a beautiful unspoiled lamb that was generally a victim to the story and the players, so now it's the complete opposite and almost a literal biblical interpretation where the meek inherited the Earth.

    No real spoilers, just my guesses...
    Hale also has a score to settle with the dead Delores from season 3 so I'm wondering if Hale has a grudge for her or the humans that made Delores that way. Has Hale forgiven Delores by resurrecting her or is it another form of her poetic justice to take away the things Delores grows to love...

    So many ways for the show to take that burn scene and her ****ed up arm...

    Yeah, I thought all workers inside that "gaming company" were bots but it'd fit into WW's dark theme of human collaborators. It fits into that scene where William mind ****s that 1%er couple.

    He's pretty much a lapdog spy for Hale but too many things above his pay grade lol.

    Hale made Delores into a Truman show... She probably still loves Delores and wants Delores to choose her over humans by transcending into their robot heaven.

    If true, it would be a sappy and cliched motivation for "the one who has everything", and it's a bit of a trope to use that for audiences who aren't filthy rich or powerful.
    They kind of explained it where William bot is having an existential crisis since Hale flat out told him that his main purpose for existing is to be a better robot version of human Will.

    Speaking to the outliers seem to trigger empathy that the world they live in is a huge lie and for William bot, it's not even his choice or his world but rather Hale's. Him abusing and taunting that couple can also hint a subtle cry or release for himself.

    There's an ongoing theme in every season of who's really in control. This show screams meta and tries to out meta the last one until the audience is stuck with a pool of drool for going one level too deep.

    It's like a Russian Doll where you think you're fully in control only for another shell to be inside.

    So William bot goes back to his "source" to figure out his center of the maze...

    My guess is something like the sublime, the robot heaven without humans or physical form.

    They took over that dam from the cartel probably to merge with the sublime and let it last for thousands of years. Looks like a coffin to me...

    Hale is wondering ( and lonely) why her versions aren't jumping at the opportunity. I'm guessing the sublime has a flat hierarchy but the world Hale in meatspace made lays it real thick with dominance and control. Would her transcend world be flat as well?

    Who really knows at this point. The fact that Bernard ran all those Sims probably hints it's a poor imitation.
     
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  16. Beezy

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    Nice to see Daniel Wu (Sunny from Into the Badlands) get some work.
     
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  17. Beezy

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    The music on this show is so damn good.

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  18. Invisible Fan

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    That whole Caleb sequence had Dark Souls vibes going for it.
     
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  19. Beezy

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    Good call. Fallout 3 is where my mind went (above pic). Coincidentally, the Westworld showrunners are producing the Fallout series on Amazon.
     
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  20. Invisible Fan

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    NGL, if in the future, I could "jack into" a robot clone of myself and play meatspace Super Mario Bros, that'd be a good 15 minute thrill and upgrade to whatever lame VR they have at that time.
     

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