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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheReasonSF3, Aug 27, 2002.

  1. Clutch

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    I wonder if Shawn Bradley ever reminded George Karl of Wilt Chamberlain also.
     
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    LMAO. :D :D :D I just don't get how a guy can say that someone reminds him of Wilt and then says that he isn't better then Shawn Bradley.
     
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    He reminds me of a praying mantis.
     
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    NBA Inside Stuff is on NBA TV. They said they are going to go inside the US basketball team so they might show Yao.
     
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    George Karl couldn't win if he had Wilt Chamberlain and Shaq on the same team. The guy may be (is) the worst coach in the NBA. Have any of his team's ever played D?

    Idiot wind,
    blowing every time you move your mouth
    Blowing down the backroads headin' south
    Idiot wind,
    blowing every time you move your teeth
    You're an idiot babe,
    it's a wonder that you still know how to breathe


    -Bob Dylan "Idiot Wind"
     
  6. Der Rabbi

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    Dude the 90's Sonics were one of the best defensive teams in the league. Top 2 or 3 easily in it's era.
     
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    That was Gary Payton and Nate McMillan, not Karl. How did those Sonic teams do in the playoffs?

    And how bout that Bucks D. Karl should have gone back to NC when he had the chance.
     
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    I swear to god these guys need to get this Bradley fixation out of their freaking heads. Then again maybe he's right! Here's the things that Shawn Bradley and Ming have in common:

    They were both lottery picks
    They're both really tall
    They're both playing on Texas teams

    Things they don't have in common:
    Ming has talent
    Bradley doesn't

    Did I miss anything?

    I'm really shocked nobody has tried to compare him to George Muresan or Manute Bol!
     
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    Lost to the Bulls in the NBA finals and they beat the Rockets a few times.

    I think Karl is a good coach but he speaks out of his arse sometimes.
     
  10. BobFinn*

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    That was Nate McMillan and Dale Ellis, not Karl.:D
     
  11. Der Rabbi

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    Kicked the Rockets a$$ every time they meet them (to my great chagrin).

    If I'm not mistaken they were in the top 2 or 3 shooting % against & always lead the league in turnovers created. Hell Karl even made good team defensive players out of Hawkins, Schrempf & Perkins.
     
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    So the Sonics won how many championships in the 90's? And the Rockets won how many Championships in the 90's?

    My point is George Karl had some very good teams, yet he still couldn't win a championship.

    It seems like every move he has made with the Bucks has been a bad one. Maybe he should start looking for a new job.
     
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    no matter what he meant by it, the comparison at any point to bradley is just Stupid. people need to look past his height and think of a different player becasue it's getting real old. he is atleast 10 times the player shawn is now. why are they still compared?!?!?!? ahhhh!!!!!

    imo, this is obviously posing, his comments now and immediately following the action are completely different. he's sat down and thought maybe i shouldn't be so free with my compliments of other team's players. i don't blame him but his actual opinion we heard 3 days ago.
     
  14. Der Rabbi

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    The Rockets were lucky that someone else eliminated the Sonics the 2 years they made it to the finals or they probably wouldn't have been there. Not to mention the Sonics had to play the Bulls when they finally got there. Not that I'm downgrading the Rockets or their championships, but the Sonics had their # in the 90s. That's why they traded for Barkley, b/c he had their #. It isn't that the Sonics were a better team they just reaked havok on the Rockets in general & reaked defensive havok on teams with predominately set offenses in general (although the Jazz seemed to hold their own against them) If you don't accept this basic fact, then I really have to doubt that you watched the NBA in that era.

    The Bucks will never be a great defensive team b/c that isn't the personel that they have. He goes with the style of play that his players bring. (Rudy ought to give this a shot - Spreading the floor for an iso was great when Dream started the offense 6 feet from the basket but all the guard isos of the current era seem to lead to bad shots - Ever hear of motion sets?)

    I hated Karl for all the Rocket pastings he administered over the years, but if you think he is a bad coach b/c of a misrepresented metaphor he made concerning everyones darling Ming then that is just sad. These days Karl is one of the few NBA coaches that don't pile on the horse$hit & I respect his candor.
     
  15. Timing

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    This is very amusing but I don't think some of you even read George Karl's quote from a few days ago. He didn't compare any aspect of Yao's game to Wilt's.

    "He's not in this category, but his size reminds me of Wilt Chamberlain's size when Wilt first came into the league,'' Karl said. "He had such a size advantage, and he had a fade-away that you couldn't block.''
     
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    What's up Timing.....I construed the last part of the Karl quote to mean that due to the similar height advantage as Wilt had, Yao's shot is basically unblockable by the current set of NBA centers.
     
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    Guys, I really don't see what all the fuss is about, Karl's comments make perfect sense when you consider:

    1) Coaches ALWAYS give the nod to veteran players when there is a similarity, and Ming's height alone makes Bradley the one to compare him with. The fact that Karl is equating the two, already, meaning he's overcoming the pro-veteran bias, is a pretty significant compliment.

    2) I haven't seen the interview, but if he was just saying this in terms of presence, I would agree that Bradley, when he plays, is a definite presence, and offenses alter when he's in there.

    3) Karl is talking about Bradley's established career as a starting point, and considering Ming has played exactly one game against NBA level competition, and he's already compared his POTENTIAL to Chamberlain, what would you expect him to say? He's an opposing coach, not a Rockets fan, he's hardly likely to say " Yeah, off that one game, he's better than anyone but Shaq." Look at what that would open him up to if Ming doesn't progress..

    4) Coaches rarely like to insult other players if they don't have to, and in this way Karl has complimented Ming without insulting Bradley...He's under no obligation to provide scouting reports for us, and he already has gushed about the guy. Why would he tick off Bradley...(what if he has to coach him one day), just to make us happier?
     
  18. Timing

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    Sorry I wasn't trying to pick on you, your post was just the first one I saw. A lot of people on these boards are thinking Karl said things that he really didn't.
     
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    Of all the center in the league. Why would Karl pick on Bradley, I think that is disrespectful to the obiwankanoMING!!

    I spit on your name Karl!!!:mad:
     
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    I couldn't agree with Der Rabbi more, he nailed it on the dot. The Sonics were the Rocket Killers of the 90's, I don't think the Rockets could of beat the Sonics in a series then. I'm glad the Rockets didn't have to play them in the championship years. I always thought they were the only team that could stop a healthy Houston then, not Utah or the Bulls(we had their #). As for Karl, though I dislike him he is implying that Ming now is at least as good as Bradley was which has career averages of 9.5 pts, 7.2 rebs, and 3 blks a game in 26mins a game which is not to shabby if Ming averages these numbers his first year. But there is no doubt that ming's overall ceiling far exceeds Bradley's peak and Ming will be a star in the league. By the way Bradleys best season was in 96-97 where he averaged close to 15pts, 9 rebs and 3blks a game in 32mins.
     

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