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Turkey tournament: China vs Angola 08/02

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by windandsea, Aug 2, 2002.

  1. stra

    stra Member

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    Originally posted by an idiot!:


    Just one question basher: Have you EVER seen him play?
     
  2. SuperKev

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    Here we go. Your logic is poor. You have no idea what strategies these teams are using to play vs. Yao. You make yourself look foolish with examples such as 'Randy Johnson pitching softball' etc. These are the best each of these countries have to offer.

    I think your new name should be corte el queso.
     
  3. RocketForever

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    Why do you try to make sense of words said by someone who can't even figure out why we drive on the parkways and park on the driveways (ElGrandeQueso's signature)? And you have no idea what he was smoking when he said that either...
     
  4. Sane

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    That is actualy one of the more ignorant things I've heard on this board.

    Can someone show him, NBA veteran, Shawn Bradley's numbers in international competition?
     
  5. Panda

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    Nah, the Chinese NT is a poor team. Bad coaching, bad players, bad chemistry and no fire, it's hard to sustain a competitive edge in that kind of environment for a prolonged period. Besides, every player gets into a few bad games once in a while. There's a game in which Tim Duncan scored only 5 points. You are harping on two subpar games of Yao to crucify him. It makes yourself look foolish and ignorant like you haven't watched basketball before.
     
  6. Sane

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    If you multiply the minutes and numbers, it actually comes up to 14pts, 10reb, 4 blocks in 28minutes while shooting 60%.
     
  7. gram!

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    big cheese,

    you are one stupid c*cksucker. first, i am pretty sure that those national teams are probably as good as most upper eschelon college teams if not better. so, those numbers are pretty good.

    also, the last crack about eating fowl before german sheperd?
    f*ck you! who the f*ck do you think you are you little b****? leave that racist **** at home. do not bring that here.

    i am pleased to hear the updates, and i think he is going to do very well in the nba. i can hardley wait till the season starts.

    d!ck cheese is a f*cking moron.
     
  8. vtkp99

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    tell him man....with you bro
     
  9. off_welfare

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    Why so much anger?
     
  10. TechLabor

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    When Ming got 40/20, the score was 120 or 130. Now the score is 60-70. From the difference in scores, you can see how much defense the CBA games have.

    Ming is the No. 1 star in China. He gets enough attention from the coach. Wait until he plays for the Rockets, see how Rudy will use him.

    Right now, Ming is just another Shawn Bradley. If Cato joins the Chinese national team, he will get 15 rebounds every game. Add Moochi to the team, China can beat all the teams except U.S. and Yugoslavia.
     
  11. ElGrandeQueso

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    Y'all can call me whatever the hell you want, say what you want to say, but no one has yet made a case against the fact that Yao sucks without making excuses. "The opposing team's are using tough defensive tactics to stop him", "His coach doesn't know how to use him", "He's not trying because it's international play", on and on and on.... It is pathetic to make excuses for the number one overall pick in the NBA draft in any game that he plays in. The fact that you(the Yao Ming semen guzzling bandwagon) feel the need to make a case for why Yao isn't performing well against Turkey, Brazil, and Angola is absolutely ridiculous. Those are average international teams, if that, and would probably be beaten by any top 10 college program. If Yao can't hang with those guys and struggles so mightily on defense that he gets in extreme foul trouble, what's gonna happen when he goes up against Shaq? Other than the obvious broken jaw and possibly a few cracked ribs, Yao will foul out in the second quarter. Yao couldn't hang with Chris Christofferson, Yao definitely isn't hanging with Turkey, Brazil, and Angola, and the only people Yao can hang with, can't hang. But magically I and the rest of the Yao Ming nay sayers are supposed to believe that this guy will go to the NBA and not only play well, but amazingly. It is just risible. Don't even bother coming back at me with another foolish retort, it's unnecessary. There is nothing you can do or prove, you are only laying youself out for future embarassment, and making yourself and Yao sound stupid.
     
  12. leehoang

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    hey that's what i would said

    ha


    you tell em
     
  13. Batman Jones

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    Jesus, Cheese. Randy Johnson v. softballers? Let Yao play one on one then and see how that goes. Basketball is a team sport with five players playing for each team. Sorry to repeat this information for those of you who already knew that. Queso didn't. Each of the "excuses" you cited is valid. China has no guards. We have great guards. They have no coach. We have at least a good one. And what about your side's ridiculous arguments about Yao being another Shawn Bradley? Look at Shawn's summer stats. By your logic he should be playing at least as well as Yao. Also consider that he's playing against guys like Turkoglu in this tourney. But you don't want to hear about all that.

    I can't wait til he comes into his own in this league. He could lead us to a championship and you'd be home with your fingers in your ears and a blindfold over your eyes shouting, "LA LA LA LA LA, I'M NOT LISTENING, YAO SUCKS, LA LA LA LA LA!"

    Where's the link to your site, bozo? The racists and the morons need somewhere to go.
     
  14. TechLabor

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    Let me make myself clear. I am not a Ming basher, but I don't think he is very good right now either. Right now, he is a Shawn Bradley like player with a better passing skill but poorer rebounding ability. A few years later, he can be a Rik Smits or a little bit better.

    His strong points are passing, shooting, and shot blocking. His height gives him timing advantage in shooting and shot blocking. But catching the ball in the low post is another story. It needs strength, quickness, and jumping ability. He lacks all three of them. As a result, he won't be aggressive on offense. Can he fake the ball and drive to the basket like Dirk or even Zhizhi ? He is too slow for that.

    On defense, he can block some shots. Due to his slow speed, he will get a lot of fouls.

    Remember, there haven't been a great basketball player over 7'2 in history.
     
  15. Ottomaton

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    Arvydas Sabonis was 7'3". Most people consider him the best international player ever.
     
  16. Panda

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    Techlabor:
    I think I've got some good news for ya on Yao.
    Yao is light years ahead of Bradley right now. In short, Yao's stronger, shoots better, blocks better, passes better, moves better with more skills.
    Yao's got a solid jumper out to CBA 3 point line, can shoot hookshots with consistency with both hands. He showed his up-and-under move, fadeaway baseline jumper, spinning off defender to the basket, and going coast to coast for a dunk off a steal in the limited highlights I saw. Can Bradley do any of those? I certainly don't recall it.
    Mentally Bradley'll be lucky to hold Yao's jock strap. Yao once shot 21-21 in an actual game. It takes tremendous mental focus for that kind of feat. Bradley won't be Bradley if he can hit 10-10 in one game, let alone 21-21.
    At 7-5 Yao moves with fluidity, whereas Bradley is a clumsy oaf who needs motor oil lubricating his joints to dance.
    These are why Bradley is avaraging something along the line of 4 points and 4 rebounds in the Germany NT in the same tournament, courtesy of a poster's signature.
    Legs are the engine for big men. Yao's strong base will prevent him from being moved around. He will hold his own defensively. His drawbacks right now are stamina and upper body strength. With NBA training and diet, along with the age factor, I believe those weaknesses will be solved.
    So relax, sit back and enjoy the ride. :)
     
  17. RocketForever

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    I agree! Ming is going to be a all-star for years to come. He has the tools, the heart and the intelligence to succeed in the League. Go Rockets! Go Ming! :D
     
  18. TechLabor

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    panda,

    Yao can definitely improve his strength and stamina. Speed, quickness, and jumping ability are mostly genetic. After so many years of training, I don't know how much he can still improve.

    To reach the level of Rik Smits is already very good. I certainly hope Ming can do better than that.
     
  19. gram!

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    ok, cheesed!ck, and you are getting your prognostication from....?

    and you know all about the other teams in the tourney because......?

    and you have watched yao ming play how many times...........?

    your pulling theses predictions outta your ass, you don't know **** about the teams in the tourney. all you know is (in stupid hillbilly accent) "hell ANGOLA??? where the hells that???" and you have not even seen yao play in a full game.

    your whole argument is based on opinion.
    the us olympic team had a tough time against many of these same teams. everybody knows that national compition is ALOT better than it used to be, and many of those players are more disciplined and trained in fundimentals. but NOOOOOOO, you insist that they are a step below the developmental league!

    i do not know either, but i do know that you need to shut the f*ck up and wait till you see him play.
     
  20. RocketForever

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    Calm down Gram. I am sure ElgrandeQueso knows more about basketball and have seen more Yao Ming's games than all those professional NBA scouts. :D :D :D
     

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