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Trust Fund Baby's Latest Legal Loss

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Dec 1, 2022.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Rich people don't just control politics with their money, they have a say with the the GOP because people vote Republican because they believe Democrats hate the rich. There is nothing to see in Trump's returns. You're only solidifying the GOP base of voters who all hope to be rich one day
     
  2. adoo

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    i wish that you's stop projecting your willful ignorance
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    There is a long ass thread about the FTX guy and filled with posts of politicians he gave to.

    We already have safeguards about that in terms of information about who gives money to whom
     
  4. adoo

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    there are many reasons to do so, when that someone is the POTUS

    if only you'd read your history books, you'd discover the genesis of IRS' presidential audit practice,
    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/23/nixon-trump-tax-returns-1050587
    stop projecting your willful ignorance,
     
  5. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    So you are gonna find something illegal that the IRS couldn't. Oh I forgot you're gonna find the oligarch debt
     
  6. Agent94

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    And what if the FTX guy was the head of the SEC and the IRS? You don’t think it’s a good idea to know if the President is a financial criminal?
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    That's what the IRS does. This is the dumbest argument. That people are going to find something the IRS didn't

    People don't put financial crimes in tax returns
     
  8. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    People put financial crimes in tax returns all the time. There are those that knowingly under report or over report and falsify returns every year. There are those who "launder" money through various entities.

    Now....if you're talking about a guy who goes and robs someone and doesn't claim it on a tax return, that's one thing, but people commit financial crimes every time they knowing falsify their returns.
     
  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    And how will Joe Schmo Citizen know if Donald Trump is under reporting income?

    As far as laundering money how is that reported in a tax return?
     
  10. Rashmon

    Rashmon Contributing Member

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    Whether our president is a crook?
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    People report crooked activity to the IRS?

    Edit: @bobrek says people under report income. Yes that's a crime but you won't know that

    The crime is hiding the income from the IRS. If the IRS thinks you're not paying your taxes by not reporting they will handle but you won't know if Donald Trump is hiding income

    The argument for publicizing his tax returns has to began with the understanding that his tax returns are legit because the agency responsible for investigating that has already blessed them.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    The only people who know if Trump is lying to the IRS are Trump and his accountants
     
  13. Agent94

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    Trump’s company has already been convicted of tax fraud. The IRS didn’t audit Trump until 2019 and assigned one agent. So hundreds of eyes looking at his returns is certainly better. Your claims are almost self evidently wrong.
     
  14. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    That is a case involving one employee not Trump. Certainly it proves that they aren't above shady dealings but it has nothing to do with Trump's taxes or even the company's taxes, it's about one employee's or several employees 's income. I think only the CFO and his taxes. He is the one who don't pay taxes on his gifts
     
  15. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Well...you just assign the money to a legal entity. One would have a legitimate business and funnel illegally gotten income through that.
     
  16. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Assign the money how, as income that taxes will be paid on? Money laundering is cleaning illegal money. The crime is whatever made the money

    So a drug dealer sets up a business to clean cash The government would be benefitting because whatever company is setup is paying money the government would never see and really isn't a reason to be making a candidate's tax returns public

    It wouldn't be in the drug dealer's tax returns. I understand you are just being argumentive about financial crimes being in in tax returns but that's really a stretch. What causes the government to look at a business and it's cash is large cash deposits at the bank. If the a business is laundering money the IRS isn't going to raise a red flag but I guess yes that is criminal activity in a tax return
     
  17. larsv8

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    Wasn't Pgabriel the one attacking the Trump Organization Investigations?

    How did that one turn out? lol
     
  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Since you're keeping track of pgabriel the investigation I was arguing against isn't over. I didn't defend them paying the CFO in gifts helping him avoid taxes.

    The investigation I was posting about is still ongoing.
     
  19. Xopher

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    The IRS didn't audit him so how would they find anything? This has been explained to you several times. Your moniker really needs to start with "Uneducated"
     
  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    They actually look at tax returns without auditing
     

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