just like George Santos , PGab lies/makes up crap so often that he loses track of his previous claims, ending up contradicting himself.
Yes, but the two are related. The potential lying to banks is part of the reason they wanted his taxes released. It's not about the IRS being behind. It's about whether or not an agency that he put someone over is doing their job as it relates to him. We now see that they didn't for at least 2 years. It's about how that ties into another potential fraud investigation. And it's public because some don't want the person leading the country to be a fraudster. The President is a public office. And he appointed the head of the agency, that "just so happened" to not be doing it's job as it relates to him for multiple years. Trump cut funding to the IRS IIRC. And again, an agency that he appointed the head not doing it's job as it relates to him is a very big issue. I'm not sure why yu are undermining that Those issues can be resolved, with a criminal investigation. To do that you need agency heads to cooperate...guys that he appointed.
Trump's tax returns are complicated and the IRS has been underfunded for a little over a decade https://apnews.com/article/business-donald-trump-richard-neal-c697c4e300948a9e2638d0d9fbbe2f96 There was no suggestion that Trump, who has announced a third presidential run, sought to directly influence the IRS or discourage the agency from reviewing his tax information. But the report found that the audit process was “dormant, at best.” Again making his tax returns public does nothing to fix the problems at the IRS Edit: the IRS having problems with complicated returns is a bigger issue than auditing Trump.
As usual I asked you a direct question, does the IRS not check every return? Continually insulting when you can't answer says a lot about you
Unethical would be something like claiming that you donated a million dollars to charity but didn’t actually do it. You can publicly make that claim and it wouldn’t be a crime. If you’re doing so to mislead people to vote for you that would be unethical. The only way the public knows For sure is to release tax records and / or receipts. But this attitude is why we get people like George Santos elected. People gripe about how politicians are liars but then are defending their ability to lie and dissemble to voters.
There is separation of powers and Congress does have oversight ability over the Executive branch. I would be all for a law that requires President and other candidates to federal office to reveal their taxes.
You’re upset over this because of partisan grounds. I dont care about the partisanship here. There certainly have been democrats who have done shady things and I’m all for Republicans compelling Democrat politicians to release their taxes. If this leads to far more financial transparency in politics that is a very good thing.
That actually isn’t that far off. As noted the IRA is both underfunded and enforcement is weak. Under collecting taxes is a big problem. The main reason though for having access to peoples running for high office isn’t again about criminality. As we see it’s not criminal to lie to the electorate. Without access to things like tax records the public really has little evidence to assess the truthfulness of a candidates financial standing.
His complicated returns and the IRS being underfunded have nada to do with the IRS choosing not to examine him for multiple years while he was in office, like they should have, while the agency head was someone he appointed. Why do you continue to ignore that? You're avoiding the real issues. The other one is bank fraud, which his returns can tie into. If that's why they were made public then you would have a point. No, that isn't a bigger issue than the nations leader potentially committing fraud and appointing people that will let hm get away with it. The IRS doesn't come close to looking at everyone's return and never has.
Your logic is off. Your are basically saying something like the police watch every citizen otherwise anyone could commit a crime whenever they wanted. The IRS absolutely does not vet every tax return, just like the police aren't always watching. That doesn't mean all people commit crimes or cheat on their taxes. Some people are honest and some are deterred by the threat of jail time or penalties.
No one is defending the ability to lie. Your hypothetical never happens. Politicians don't run on claims like that about how much money they donated and claims like that can be verified other ways. I don't know about the Santos story but apparently there are a bunch of lies. Certainly working for Goldman Sachs could be verified by tax returns but that can be verified other ways
The IRS looks at every tax return, I had an issue with the IRS over a couple of thousand dollars. They caught my mistake in less than a year
Again bad logic. You can't generalize from a sample of one. "Most tax returns are received and processed by the IRS without further examination." - https://pro.bloombergtax.com/brief/common-irs-audit-triggers/
Exactly they are processed. Further examination means an audit Thank you for verifying what I've been saying
A computer verifies calculations and certain matching, but I wouldn't call that checking every return. I've seen tax returns that would be easy audits if a human just looked at the return.
I'm not going to get into another argument of what vett means. On personal returns for most people the IRS requires you to submit your W4 information. Everyone has to submit information backing their claim and the IRS at least looks at the supporting documentation That's vetting. I don't care if the IRS audits presidents, most of these guys have very standard non complicated returns. My issue is making the returns public information which I think is unnecessary and overboard. People are arguing as if they will find something the IRS missed. This only became an issue with Trump.
