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trump's trip to Great Britain

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jun 1, 2019.

  1. dachuda86

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    A politician wasn't honest.

    In other news we landed on the moon.

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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes, shocking right? Unlike other politicians, though, he is just lying about stuff that has no bearing on his presidency except to make him look more like a buffoon than he already does. There was no reason to call her that, and no reason to lie about it. Then like a total moron he doubled down and claimed he never called her that and that it was a fake news story. The audio came out with him clearly calling her nasty. Yet he still calls it fake news.

    Is it important? Not really. But it is worth noting when the leader of the free world is that dishonest and moronic.
     
  3. Deckard

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    Mr trump's trip to the United Kingdom is the real "Clown Car." What an embarrassment to our great country, a great country which the puffed up egomaniac is doing his damnedest to damage as much as he can while he has the chance. He goes crazy every time someone criticizes him, so he's almost continually crazy and busy making a fool of himself. Your ancient kingdom will withstand his madness. I don't doubt it. You'll even survive the Brexit Exit, which looks increasingly likely. A mistake, in my opinion, but it is your's to make.

    I want to extend my personal apologies to the people of the United Kingdom. A majority of Americans voted against this clown, but a flaw in our electoral system, combined with some help from Vladimir Putin, put him where he is today. Find solace in the fact that he won't hold that position forever. Like you, we still have elections.
     
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  4. mdrowe00

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    ...you know, the Brits once upon a time thought it was a bad idea to give the rabble the keys to civilization...

    ...individual rights...states rights...unborn rights...all that stuff...

    ...took a couple hundred years or so, but we may finally be proving that they had the right idea about this ruling monarchy business being the necessary (if not actually preferred)...method of societal governance...

    ...didn't Rome broker a deal like that...and look what happened to them...?:);):D
     
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  5. Deckard

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    Yet it was a completely unnecessary vote, an idea of former PM David Cameron in a fit of hubris after Scotland voted to remain in the UK, that put the Kingdom on the wrong side of the road they're traveling now. Cameron assumed that "remain" would win. Had it been an honest election it likely would have. The man who's currently looks to be the next PM and a leading "Brexit" guy, Boris Johnson, lied through his teeth about what belonging to the EU cost the UK in the run up to the vote. The Russians also played a significant role, just as they did here in 2016. The consequences of that incredible error on Cameron's part was not prevented by the monarchy, mostly a figurehead these days that provides an aura surrounding Britain that tourists delight in, and their military enjoys (The Royal Navy - how cool is that?). While I enjoyed your humor, I doubt that it would have helped us here. :)

    Here's some reporting about Russia's impact on the Brexit vote:

    Why isn’t there greater outrage about Russia’s involvement in Brexit?
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    Nick Cohen

    This scandal should cause uproar but the BBC and Labour just change the subject

    The first duty of the leaders and citizens of a democracy is to defend its elections from subversion. Yet a country that boasts of giving the world free parliaments feels no obligation even to look at allegations that Russia subverted British democracy. The government and opposition are compromised and want the scandal closed down. As does an embarrassed rightwing press and a shamefully negligent BBC.

    “Suggest we send a note of support to the ambassador,” wrote Andy Wigmore, press officer for Nigel Farage’s Leave.EU just before the Brexit referendum. Documents seen by the Observer suggest that Arron Banks, who gave the campaign the largest political donation in British history, agreed. Whether a note was sent or not, Leave.EU supported the Kremlin line that it was not interfering in British politics. Pause to think about the scene described by Carole Cadwalladr in today’s Observer. The demagogues behind a lavishly funded campaign, whose claim to be patriots was accepted by 52% of the electorate, appeared to be scrambling to provide cover for a hostile foreign power. Why?

    I’ll leave you to read our pieces on the contacts between Russia and the Leave campaign and the ties that appear to bind Banks and Farage to Trump and Steve Bannon and on to Russia. Pay particular attention to the offers from the Russians to Banks of a stake in a goldmine. One issue remains: a campaign that purported to be for the “left behind” was organised and funded by men with links across the global network of far-right American demagogues and kleptomaniac dictators such as Putin. We know that Russia has interfered in elections in North America and Europe. Russia had a direct interest in promoting Brexit because it would destabilise a strategic rival. (Anyone who doubts me need only look at how Brexit has brought Whitehall close to collapse.) We know too that the Electoral Commission referred Banks’s campaign to the police for alleged “unlawful overspending” and has raised urgent questions about the behaviour of Boris Johnson and Michael Gove’s supposedly “respectable” alternative, Vote Leave. They deny any impropriety.

    Shouldn’t we be following the money?

    The BBC, meanwhile, has more journalists than any other news organisation in Europe. Given its dominance, it is almost true to say news isn’t news until the BBC says it is. For months, you’d be forgiven for thinking its editors have not let its reporters cover Russia-Brexit. They can report on Trump’s links to Russia – and I suppose we should be grateful for that – but not on allegations of the subversion of the electoral process in the country whose taxes fund them.

    If the BBC mentions the Brexit scandal at all, it treats it as boxing match in which the corporation occupies the lofty position of impartial referee. Andrew Marr and the Today programme have both tried to titillate their audiences with catfights between Cadwalladr and Banks and Isabel Oakeshott, who helped Banks with Bad Boys of Brexit. They would be all very well if, to date, the BBC had not failed to produce investigative journalism of its own on the subject. Real journalism is hard work and, if the job is well done, its conclusions, however impartially presented, won’t make comfortable listening for ideological factions and moneyed interests with the wealth to hire libel lawyers.

    The usual complaint against the BBC is that, if you assert the world is round, it will scour the country to find a guest to argue that it’s flat. Its behaviour on the Brexit scandal is more disturbing than the usual fetishisation of balance. Rather than report, it has reduced public service broadcasting to a modern version of the Roman circus: a show that stops the plebs worrying their little heads about the future of their country. I’ve defended the BBC against Scottish nationalists, Corybnistas, Remainers and the Brexit right. But how can anyone respect a news organisation that prefers staged confrontations to reporting?

    On the Brexit scandal, the BBC offers something worse than fake news: it offers no news. In this, the broadcasters are a true reflection of a compromised political system. Alongside the Electoral Commission, the National Crime Agency and intelligence agencies ought to be investigating. Allegations that foreign states are trying to change the course of a nation’s history are too serious to be left to civil servants and junior officers. You only have to raise the possibility of a British version of the Mueller inquiry to realise why Labour and Conservatives, left and right, would hate it.

    The Tories are committed to Brexit. They will not push for investigations into a Brexit campaign whose wishes they are now meeting. Psychologically, Tories and the Tory press cannot separate the Russia allegations from Brexit. They fear that, if they look too hard, the legitimacy of the referendum will dissolve before their eyes.

    In the US, opposition Democrats want Trump’s every dealing with Russia exposed. But in Britain the leaders of the opposition Labour party are as anxious as Farage and May to change the subject. Never forget the far left’s soft spot for thieving autocrats. Jeremy Corbyn’s spokesman, Seumas Milne, flew to Sochi to bend his knee to Putin.

    Emily Thornberry defended Russia’s Syrian policy as reliably as Arron Banks. Even if you can put its attraction to dictators to one side, the London far left is in a marriage of convenience with the northern Labour right. Both are determined to stop free movement and keep Britain out of the single market: the Labour right because it fears that the charge of being soft on immigration will be electoral poison; the Corbyn left because it dreams of a “lexit” in which it will be free to build socialism in one country. For reasons of ideology and electoral calculation, we are stuck with an opposition that will not oppose.

    Can you begin to see why the scandal is not a scandal? In any other democracy, there would be uproar. But here, the Tory and Labourfrontbenches must pretend there’s nothing to see. I’ll leave you with the Elizabethan courtier Sir John Harington, who explained in the 1590s how Russia has Britain where it wants it, when he said:

    Treason doth never prosper; What’s the Reason?
    Why, if it prosper none dare call it treason.


    • Nick Cohen is an Observer columnist
     
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  6. sammy

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    Lol at Trump falling asleep during the Queen's speech. :D
     
  7. B-Bob

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    Too many bigly words. SAD!
     
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  8. NewRoxFan

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    We can only hope trump is coming up with these false facts on his own...



    Largest U.S. trade partners (source: United States Census Bureau):

    https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/highlights/toppartners.html

    Top Trading Partners - March 2019
    Data are goods only, on a Census Basis, in billions of dollars, unrevised.
    Year-to-Date Total Trade
    Rank Country Exports Imports Total Trade Percent of Total Trade
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    Total, All Countries 408.4 598.5 1,006.9 100.0%
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    Total, Top 15 Countries 287.7 467.6 755.4 75.0%
    1 Mexico
    64.0 86.6 150.6 15.0%
    2 Canada
    72.3 74.3 146.6 14.6%
    3 China
    26.0 106.0 132.0 13.1%
    4 Japan
    18.3 36.0 54.3 5.4%
    5 Germany
    15.7 31.0 46.7 4.6%
    6 Korea, South
    13.5 19.9 33.4 3.3%
    7 United Kingdom
    18.0 15.0 33.1 3.3%
    8 France
    9.7 14.1 23.9 2.4%
    9 India
    8.8 14.7 23.5 2.3%
    10 Taiwan
    7.5 12.7 20.1 2.0%
    11 Italy
    6.0 13.6 19.7 2.0%
    12 Netherlands
    13.3 6.1 19.4 1.9%
    13 Vietnam
    2.5 16.0 18.4 1.8%
    14 Brazil
    10.0 7.3 17.3 1.7%
    15 Ireland
    2.2 14.3 16.5 1.6%
     
  9. NewRoxFan

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    trump's adult aged children attending the Great Britain trip.

     
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    The Brits can be a bit surly at times ...


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    not photoshopped

    Queen MAGA hat.jpg
     
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    Photo shopped those people over there strongly dislike trump .
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    this is the UK counterpart to the doctored video that makes Pelosi appear drunk, which Trump and Fox News
    had re-tweeted.

    Trump had repeatedly said / tweeted that former British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson
    should be the next PM. Johnson did not meet Trump on his most recent visit to the UK,
    but video of Boris making disparaging comments about Trump was broadcast onto
    the Big Ben, a famous London landmark.​

    this message was broadcast, "Trump's stupefying ignorance makes him "unfit" to be president."

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    https://www.businessinsider.com/video-of-boris-johnson-insulting-trump-broadcast-onto-big-ben-2019-6
     
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    In an interview with trump-friendly piers morgan, trump shares how he has to be concerned about nuclear weapons and how Winston Churchill didn't...




    An excerpt from the transcript of the same interview:

     
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    Trump, Irish prime minister differ on Brexit, meeting venue
    https://apnews.com/b37d8ad66bb84b05aa994a13341465cf
     

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