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Trump vs. DeSantis

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Nov 9, 2022.

  1. KingCheetah

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    How do you know they don't hate Desantis?

    Who did they hate, so they voted for a lot of Dems in this midterm?

    So is DeSantis just going to support abortion rights and alienate half of his base, or support what his base wants and further erode abortion rights?

    How do you think don't say gay is going to play in a national election.

    It's not about if R's hate him it's about can he get democrats to vote for him and keep all Trumps voters, how does he weather the attacks from trump?

    There was a widespread opinion that this was a red wave, and we saw how that went.
     
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    Google question?

    Higher interest rates at a rapid pace, persistent yield curve inversion, and sticky inflation are some indicators. The Fed will continue to raise rates and likely strengthen the dollar versus other currencies, which will be bad for growth companies and the rest of the world.

    Loan origination for cars and homes have cratered due to higher rates. Smaller regional banks are holding a fleet of overpriced used cars they're slowly unloading like dirt in Shawshank so the still overheated used car market won't crash. It'd be disinflationary and nice for consumers if that happens, though the amount of crazy loans smell bailout.

    Worldwide isn't doing much better. China, Japan, Switzerland,and UK already have had public bank interventions in the last two months from a liquidity crunch of dollars and side effects of a stronger dollar. Consumer debt is becoming a problem in some Western Euro countries, S. Korea, and Canada.

    Then you have the gas situation at the EU that will cause it to enter a recession even if the winter is mild. The O&G problem has been a huge factor in inflation affecting the world. Generally inflation can be good, but not like this. Supply limited inflation from oil last hit in the 70s.

    Rounding back to the Fed, they've stated for the past 5 months inflation is the highest priority. Demand destruction, job loss, and stock market corrections are on the table. The rapid hikes will probably need a few more months to be felt while stagflation is a problem for consumers. If they stop spending through credit debt, companies will start shedding jobs. It's at that point where this kicks in a different phase. Maybe that will break "inflation stickiness" and return back to a Fed targeted 2%?

    You can probably google each sentence if this is all Franch to you.
     
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    Useless doddering old man?

    What is warranted about that reputaion?

    How has that shown up in his governance?
    Thats not a bad economy its a economy that has ups and downs.

    Since when are interest rates and car loans the basis of a good economy.

    I did google and this is what I came up with.

    https://www.investopedia.com/ask/an...ctors of,labor, capital, and entrepreneurship.

    Gdp is still projected to grow this year.

    New businesses are still growing.
    Although the pace of new business creation has slowed slightly, the rate of new businesses being created is still far higher in 2022 than it was prior to the pandemic. During Q1 2022, from January to March, there were 1.45 million new business applications in the US.

    Salary increases are projected to continue rising into the next year.

    Just because you raise rates does not make it a bad economy you might need to do some googling yourself.

    Experts declare a recession when a nation's economy experiences negative gross domestic product (GDP), rising levels of unemployment, falling retail sales, and contracting measures of income and manufacturing for an extended period of time.

    Can you point out where any of that is currently happening?
     
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    This is a grossly ignorant and negligent statement.

    I made the mistake of biting the hook...Do your homework?

    Yes, we had a technical recession for first two quarters of this year.

    NBERs declaration is a lagging indicator. If they were to call it, it'll be months after layoffs where they announce it mid-year while saying it began in the 1st quarter. At the risk of doom scrolling, some are already predicting recession for 2023.

    My point in the original post is how long since folks are already paying for 30-70% food, energy and rent increases despite not getting raises in those numbers and job cuts will be in fashion on Wall Street now that stock buybacks are unfeasible. Meta rose 25% after Zuck admitted he Fukk'd up. He didn't pivot, he laid off 11k workers. Apology accepted. We forgive u Mark!!

    The issue with your reply is that you locked on to a few things you ostensibly understood while bucketing the rest with "ups and downs."

    That deserves a "lol", but slow day for me?
     
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    It's too early to tell. DeSantis has major appeal right now, no doubt. If he is to make a splash in 2024, he needs to get controversial on the national level immediately. I'm talking about topics that affect everyone, not disney or just fl schools or other state wide issues.
     
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    Good writeup!
     
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    It's the perception. Don't take my word for it.
     
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    Contributing Members > Freeloaders
     
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    Disney started butting into Florida politics because Florida passed some law about Teachers not telling toddlers about gay sex, but that was discussed in another thread.
    @Sweet Lou 4 2

    Disney stock and products have not been very good, yeah I get that some people pretend they liked She Hulk, but it really was not good at all.
    The disney trilogy was horrible and was pretty racist cause they did Finn wrong
     
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    The right likes their strong men
     
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    I am here for the GOP civil war.
     
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    yikes…Trump looks pale and pasty, and his body is melting

    DeSantis built like Lizzo
     
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    Better for MAGATs to lust over their wives n daughters!
     
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    What is the newly elected Gov supposed to do over the next year as soon to be announced presidential candidate Trump tours the country rallying the boys?

    DeSantis 4 2028 ! ... maybe
     
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    Ship more refugees from a border state to The Hamptons? Maybe some to Silicon Valley?

    Max Libruhl tears...Max Presidential-ness!

    There's still the Ted Cruz playbook. Before his 180 to weaseldom and letting Trump violate his homely-but-first wife through words, Ted was considered the Tea Party and Freedom Caucus front runner.

    In the meanwhile, Trump will craft some yuge dingers at Mordor a Lago, home of Little Marko, Lyin Ted, and Sleepy Joe.

    Maybe Ronny DeSanctimonious (not gonna fly...dum. it. down. Donny!) should work with the FBI to get them folders back.
     
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    Ron Desanti Klaus folks, he’s not real, thats right kids, liberal in disguise who likes to watch your kids sleep, disgusting I gotta tell you
     
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