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Trump voters to fund wall?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Dec 20, 2018.

  1. vlaurelio

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    I have a feeling these poor trumpards won't get their wall nor their money back
     
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  2. Spooner

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    They are staunchly against taxes but will gladly fund a vanity project out of their own pocket after a failed promise to them that Mexico would do it. Racism is a better way to spend your own money than healthcare I guess. Most illegals come into the US statistically through airplanes BTW so you better build that wall really high! There is no way they reach 1 billion dollars, no way. Even if they did, that’s what? A fraction of total costs? Where does the rest (majority) of the money come from after this? And even if they were to raise 20 billion dollars (lol) do you realize how many beurocratic hoops would have to be jumped through? Zoning issues, environmental issues, etc. Not happening.

    What a weirdly progressive approach for these people. In theory it’s pretty much the definition of the concept of paying taxes. No matter how much money they raise, no one will be surprised by idiots. All you have to do is look at the televangelist industry.

    And since Trump just bragged about turning away an entire caravan (wow!) one immediately wonders how a wall could possibly do any better than that.

    This story made me laugh. If republicans want to fund a stupid wall more power to them I guess. No one will care either way but there is no way a go fund me is going to enact a wall lmao. No chance. If anything these people are dumber than I thought so I’ll give you that Os.
     
  3. Os Trigonum

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    here's the Post article, not in a quote box so even @NewRoxFan can read it

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...border-wall-four-days/?utm_term=.e75cf4f02c34

    A triple-amputee military vet raises more than $5 million for Trump’s border wall in four days
    By Meagan Flynn and
    Lindsey Bever
    December 20 at 2:10 PM


    If neither Mexico nor Congress is going to fund President Trump’s border wall, then Brian Kolfage has a more expedient plan: GoFundMe.

    In just four days, the military veteran’s crowdsourced campaign for construction of the border wall has raked in more than $5.6 million in donations from more than 92,000 people. Kolfage, a triple amputee who won a Purple Heart while serving in Iraq, is aiming to raise $1 billion for wall funding through the GoFundMe. He proposed on the GoFundMe page that if every one of the 63 million people who voted for Trump donated $80, they would get the wall that Trump promised them, echoing an idea included in a New York Post column over the weekend.

    The 37-year-old Air Force vet of Miramar Beach, Fla., said in an email to The Washington Post that he decided to start the campaign on Sunday because “political games from both parties” have been holding back funding for the wall. He said his campaign, “We The People Will Fund The Wall,” was about “giving the people the power.”

    “It’s time to stop playing games with voters,” Kolfage said in an email. “If we are told we’re getting something, make it happen.”

    The campaign picked up steam this week, when Trump on Tuesday abandoned his demands that Congress allocate $5 billion for the wall or face a government shutdown. Trump had previously said he would be “proud” to shut down the government to get his wall money. But it quickly became apparent that lawmakers on both sides of the aisle were not fond of that proposal. On Wednesday, Congress passed a short-term spending bill to avoid a shutdown by the Friday deadline — but that bill contained no money for Trump’s border wall, leaving its future in question as Democrats take over the House next month.

    White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said Tuesday that the administration would be seeking “other ways' to fund the wall, such as by pooling available funds from other government agencies. Trump promised Wednesday morning on Twitter that “one way or another, we will win on the Wall!”

    Could the government just take all the GoFundMe cash that Kolfage ends up raising? It’s complicated.

    Republican lawmakers have introduced bills seeking to allow the Treasury Department to accept public donations for the purpose of funding the wall. Rep. Warren Davidson (R-Ohio) and Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.) have both filed bills seeking to create a “Border Wall Trust Fund,” which Black’s bill specifies would be appropriated to the Department of Homeland Security. Black’s proposal would even create a “commemorative display,” honoring all the donors who chipped in. But those bills are just sitting in committee and would seem unlikely to have much chance once Democrats take control of the House.

    But Kolfage cited the possibility of new legislation on his GoFundMe page, assuring donors that he would find a way to ensure that “100% of your donations will go to the Trump Wall.” He assured them it would be possible by pointing to the 2012 Washington Monument restoration project. Congress allocated $7.5 million to repair damage to the monument following the 2011 East Coast earthquake, but sought a matching donation from the private sector. A philanthropist billionaire stepped up to help through the Trust for the Mall, a nonprofit public-private partnership with the National Park Service.

    Kolfage said he has established contact with the Trump administration but declined to elaborate. White House officials could not immediately be reached for comment on the fundraising effort.

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    Air Force veteran Brian Kolfage gives a piece of cheese to his 1-year-old daughter, Paris, as his wife, Ashley, looks on in Sandestin, Fla., in 2015. (Nick Tomecek/Northwest Florida Daily News/AP)

    Kolfage’s campaign is far from the only private plan seeking to help the president pay for the wall but is, by far, the most successful to date. Dozens of people have attempted to launch GoFundMe campaigns to help Trump fulfill his most ardent campaign promise, with most flopping after raising between a couple hundred to a couple thousand dollars, or even nothing.

    Kolfage, however, has one thing the others don’t: the distinguished status as “the most severely wounded airman” to survive his injuries in history, as he put it on his website.

    On Sept. 11, 2004, during Kolfage’s second deployment for Operation Iraqi Freedom, the airman woke in the middle of the afternoon feeling thirsty, and he left his tent to get water, according to his website. It was the last journey he would make on his feet. Within moments, his air base fell under attack. A 107 mm rocket shell exploded about three feet away from him, sending him airborne. The blast slammed him into a wall of sandbags. Bloodied but still conscious, Kolfage landed on the ground and yelled out for help. His right hand was hanging from his wrist by a thread, according to his biography. His legs were mangled, his lung collapsed. But Kolfage, who lost three of his limbs, managed to survive after returning to Washington for marathon surgery within 36 hours of the attack.

    He has since gained a national profile. He became a motivational speaker and has dabbled in politics, saying that he filmed a campaign ad for Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) months before she was shot. He later attended President Barack Obama’s State of the Union address as Giffords’s special guest in 2012.

    Kolfage described his politics as “funky,” preferring straight shooters but not confined to one party. An ardent Trump supporter, he said on his GoFundMe page that his support from the wall stemmed from the belief that “too many Americans have been murdered by illegal aliens and too many illegals are taking advantage of the United States taxpayers with no means of every contributing to our society.”

    For those who have questioned the feasibility of a crowdsourced national security project, Kolfage told The Post: “There’s always a way to do something. People who say you can’t would never survive living in my life. I keep hearing, ‘you can’t,’ or ‘It’s not even legal,’ but those are the people who will never step up to try to make a difference. Anything is possible.”

     
  4. JuanValdez

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    To be fair, the goal of the fundraiser is only $1 billion. And they have $6.7 million now. Still, that is less than 1% of his goal. It takes a lot of millions to make a billion.

    Still, as a PR stunt, it has already succeeded. And, if the donors all felt confident that their money would be returned if he didn't get substantially close to $1B, they could pledge whatever just to make the political statement.

    Trump should pledge to match contributions dollar-for-dollar. Then this thing would go crazy!
     
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  5. DFWRocket

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    Are they also going the gofundme the $150,000,000 it's going to take to maintain the wall every year?
     
  6. bongman

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    When was the last time this happened?
     
  7. Ottomaton

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    They could do it like a PBS pledge drive. Use the Emergency Alert System to interrupt all shows twice an hour. White House tote bags for a $100,000 pledge, and "The Donald Sings Christmas Classics" if you pledge $500,000.

    They could have the big thermometer looking thing to show how much closer they've come during each break.

    The Natonal Guard has been mobalized as operators who are standing by right now for your call.
     
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    Have the Fox News hosts contributed?
     
  10. Redfish81

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    A federal worker verification system and enforcement on businesses that hire illegals would do much better at cutting illegal immigration.... but can't tell a man how to spend his own money, lol
     
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  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    The guy is a known scammer....well done !

    DD
     
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  12. edwardc

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    It now appears those that think the wall is a good idea is going to make it happen there raising money at a very fast pace if they get help from congress that wall will be coming.
     
  13. RayRay10

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    To be fair, this is an interesting concept that I think the government should explore more of. Take some issues that are hard to fit in the budget and open up donation links for them. If they reach the required funding level, they can be implemented. This way, instead of taxing everyone, the folks that want to have these things can pay directly for them and the rest don't have to complain about their tax dollars being spent on these projects when they don't want them. If funding is close, but not quite there yet, and support is strong enough, then the government can look at funding options to bring it over the top. Would work especially well for infrastructure projects, stadium builds, etc.
     
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    At the pace they are raising money, it would only be 51+ years before they reach their goal.
     
  16. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Math is a hell of a drug
     
  17. DaDakota

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    And is a known scammer.

    DD
     
  18. CCorn

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    I’m starting one for the wall on our Canadian border
     
  19. NewRoxFan

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    I think Canadians will help build that if it means trump stays south...
     
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  20. CCorn

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    Did Mexico ever give us anything as awful as nickelback? Exactly. Build the wall.
     
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