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Trump to declare national emergency to build border wall

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RESINator, Feb 14, 2019.

  1. dachuda86

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    Dems want'em. Go ahead and let'em have'em. If they refuse this, then I will consider them racists and bigots.

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    I just don't think you and most right wingers even understand what a "sanctuary city" is. It's something that most law enforcement (not exactly snowflake libtards) in major cities desire for a reason.
     
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    Now trump appears to actually want to run with it. So he can't claim it was fake news, misreporting leaks. So he really doesn't want a solution to the problem he has exasperated... but instead, wants to try to politicize this.

     
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    Like you don't already consider them that.
     
  5. dachuda86

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    Oh I am not right wing bro. I am a classic liberal and oh yeah, I actually believe in borders. You've got me mistaken for someone else. And I know exactly what they are and it still doesn't change my position on moving people to cities where they are wanted. They should find plenty of acceptance in these heavily Democratic cities, because Republicans are mostly racist, bigots, homophobic, etc. This is for the best.
     
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    What a bigot... the way she questions it... you can feel the hate because she doesn't want them in her city.
     
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    I don't even think you understand the problem at the border and I don't think you have a clue of what I want.

    The way to solve the problem legally is hire more immigration judges and or work with Mexico to control the flow of Central American immigrants seeking Asylum. Those are the two legal options on the book. You don't add additional security for a problem where people are voluntarily showing up at checkpoints and handing themselves to border patrol.

    Unfortunately for Trump, our laws explicitly states that any migrant has the right to have their case heard. It doesn't mean I want all of them in. It means I want the problem solved and the only way the problem is solved is by removing the choke point which isn't security but lack of judges hearing cases thus creating a 4-5 year backlog.

    I know it doesn't sound sexy and I know it isn't going to energize voting bases but that is the actual solution and you and other Trump supporters can play cute games but it won't solve problems.


    Again, you have no ****ing clue what a sanctuary city entails. And you are not looking for a solution but rather ways to feel good about yourself trolling on a message board.

    I actually had you on ignore. You and like 2 other posters in my 5+ years posting here. I don't like putting people on ignore because it really makes reading these forums annoying so I decided to unignore everyone on the list. But now I remember why. There really is no exchange of genuine sincere debate with you.
     
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    Language friend. I think we can all agree that you are getting a bit heated. And I am not a Trump supporter bro. I don't approve of his handling of the border and I agree that more judges are needed. I largely think your condescension to be rude and unnecessary. I perfectly understand the border situation and I don't see why you don't think more security would be needed if armies of migrants are massing and marching on the border. We are a country of laws friend, and it is completely needed. More judges too. If we can't handle them, the they should be turned away to the safest country they came to which is Mexico, because they can claim asylum there and be perfectly safe. I think you have misrepresented the situation actually in many cases and you cling to spin you probably picked up from propaganda off leftist echo chambers.
     
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    I think anyone who agrees with Trump's brain fart passing idea that dumping migrants in cities where local law enforcement does not want the burden of being immigration officers in pretty much every major US city(Sanctuary cities) because "they deserve it" is a Trump **** sucker because it's such an asinine unproductive idea based on shitty premises such as believing the current "crisis" requires more walls instead of judges and having an incorrect perception of what sanctuary cities are. It's pure right wing meme fodder where anyone agreeing with it is a right wing partisan hack.
     
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    I can't believe you wouldn't want people to be in a welcoming city where they will be safe. I don't think there is any malice in such an idea. It is odd it bothers you so much though. Something is weird.
     
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    Really? So now you want to willy willy grant asylum to every one who requests it? Why?




    Ohhh..... I get it .


    You thought that's what I wanted.

    I want the executive branch to abide by the law. And the law says that asylum requests merit a hearing. 95% of the requests can be respected for all I care.

    Do you honestly believe it's difficult to figure out when someone is arguing in bad faith?
     
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    It appears NYT is also reporting the same...

     
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    Maybe we can find a way to make allocating immigration judges sexy and tough. Like air commercials on Fox News between Tucker and Hannity where a immigration judge, blond with some cleavage showing, possibly an Ivanka look-a-like, slams her gavel dramatically and scream "ASYLUM NOT GRANTED!".

    I wonder if that will sway our baby in cheif to do something pragmatic.
     
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    DHS is attempting to distance itself from trump's plan...

     
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    You are smoke and mirrors. Not hard to see your bad faith at all despite it, bro.
     
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    Would expect anything else from trump .
     

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