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Trump signs executive orders limiting power of agencies

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  1. IBTL

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    He's a shitstain, no doubt.
     
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  2. deb4rockets

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    The founders crafted a government 225 years ago for a simple agrarian society of just four million people, some 700,000 of whom were slaves. Of the free population, 95 percent were farmers. Government was not expected to do much, and the founders—mainly concerned about avoiding “tyranny of the majority”—purposely designed a byzantine government that couldn’t do much, separating authority across the various branches of government and filling it with veto points that made coherent policy action exceedingly difficult.

    When government has been able to act, moreover, congressional lawmaking has typically led—due to the built-in nature of legislators’ incentives—to cobbled-together policy concoctions crafted to attract disparate legislators with disparate interests into the necessary support coalitions, not to provide the most effective means of addressing social problems. (See, for example, Steven Brill’s account of the Affordable Care Act, America’s Bitter Pill.) Legislators and special interests have gotten what they wanted. But their political intent has not been to create policies that are serious, coherent, well integrated, intellectually justifiable solutions to the problems they allegedly address—and the result is that problems have festered and rarely been resolved.

    This approach to governance may have been fine for the late 1700s. But that era is long gone, and it isn’t coming back. Within 100 years, the nation grew to fifteen times its original population, stretched all the way to the Pacific, and was developing explosively into a modern industrial society—generating countless problems along the way, from rapacious monopoly to tainted meat to unregulated drugs, that the founders never anticipated and their antiquated government was never designed to solve. It was already a relic of the past.

    The disjunction only got worse with time. In the last century, American society has continued to change at a frenzied pace, driven by stunning technological innovations and an increasingly complex and globalized economy, and giving rise to a mind-boggling array of vexing problems that weigh upon American society today. Terrorism. Pollution. Inequality. Persistent poverty. A crumbling infrastructure. Intense international competition. A broken immigration system. Skyrocketing debt. And much more. What we need is a government that is up to the challenges thrust upon it by the modern world. But what we have is a government designed in 1789—for a primitive world nothing like our own. We are prisoners of the past.


    Times have changed! This isn't the 1700's!





    https://www.hoover.org/research/our-outdated-constitution
     
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  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    They aren't just cutting gov't waste. I am all for that. They are cutting what is politically against what they want and not in your best interest. Labeling everything you don't like as "waste" isn't the right way to go about it. And definitely when it's in violation of the law.
     
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  4. raining threes

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    Yes times have changed, it's time to get back to less govt in our lives.
     
  5. raining threes

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    What have they cut that's been in violation of the law?
     
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  6. GOATuve

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    I don't live in fantasy. I live in reality
     
  7. GOATuve

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    Actually I'm not trying to stick it to anyone. You're so angry. You can always always attempt to curse me out. No thanks. Go ahead
     
  8. GOATuve

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    You and Andre can high 5 each other. Enjoy it. I'll leave it there
     
  9. Andre0087

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    Quit playing stupid you know how to research and read a news article. Here's just one of many...

    "A federal judge Thursday found the Trump administration violated a restraining order meant to stop it from suspending congressionally approved foreign aid funds, a decision that marks the latest judgment in a slew of legal actions as Democrats and others fight Trump and cost-cutting czar Elon Musk in court."

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alison...to-lift-halt-on-birthright-citizenship-order/
     
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  10. deb4rockets

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    Did you read the article, or were you just too lazy, when you responded with that ridiculous comment?

    There were less than 4 million people then to govern, and 95% were farmers. Now we have 2% farmers and an increase of almost 10,000% population with 326 million more people. Science has changed, healthcare has changed, people and society have changed. We have hundreds of millions of people who aren't farmers, millions of veterans to take care of and assist and protect with far different issues and problems of the past, and inserting a few non-expert to support and make decisions to manage all those things at home and abroad is reckless endangerment of a huge portion of our country. Terrorism, gun violence, and threats that affect Americans are different. We have cyber crimes, mass shootings, money laundering, cyber stalkers, and so many new problems to deal with, along with the effects all the national disasters have done to large populations of people.

    We have a much much different world, and many more departments in government needed than over 200 years ago. Top that off with a narcissistic sociopath/psychopath who thinks he's an expert in everything, and smarter than the experts in their fields, and it's a recipe for disaster when he says he will do whatever he chooses to do.
     
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  11. raining threes

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    Tell me more about this judge.

    I see your in favor of shipping your tax money to other countries. Can't wait for this to get overturned.
     
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    Yeah I read it, I just believe in less government in our lives regardless of how much the world is changing. I don't believe the federal government is going to solve any issues. They will take your tax money and tell you they will solve everything.
     
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    "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
     
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  14. deb4rockets

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    Everything about that spews negligence and fantasy, with a double dose of delusion. More like the circle of billionaires, without expertise in anything but their personal businesses taking a big dump on hard working Americans and civilians and veterans in need, and taking from them to profit themselves more and more and more.
     
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    "We need less government in our life which is why the government threatening to destroy any corporation who doesn't give us money is perfectly fine" lol

    @deb4rockets it's the lowest iq cult of all time

     
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    MAGA is fighting corruption so much that they are dismissing all pending litigation against big banks who have proven to screw Americans

    Its such a braindead group of followers
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    I've hated to ask, but what do the Trump supporters say to justify gutting the CFPB?

    It literally looks out for the little guy against the Big Guy, often as a last resort.
     
  19. astros123

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    They're dismissing litigation against corporations that were found guilty to screw over Americans. These are corporations that signed cease and desist agreements bcz they got caught screwed Americans

    Its like were allowing all serial killers to be released from prison. Its utterly INSANE
     
  20. raining threes

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    If you say so, I'm going to enjoy paying less taxes, less regulations etc...

    I'm hoping he does away with the Dept of education, IRS etc...
     

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