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Trump Sends Unmarked Fed Goons to Kidnap Protesters

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by fallenphoenix, Jul 17, 2020.

  1. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

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    That's the issue. Rights for me but not for my ideolgical opponents. That is fascism in a nutshell.
     
  2. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    I just post videos

    I'm not left or right, I'm above

    I don't know what this dude was thinking. idea was not good , look at the result

    @Os Trigonum
     
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  3. tinman

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    1. This dude was from Texas , how did he get up to Portland? vacationing?
    2. This dude knew the Feds were popping out. So he was ready 'to drop the hammer on them.
    3. It was like 30 federal agents. He's not Thor.

    please comment on all three points.

    I'm about being above not left or right.

    PS, People in Hong Kong aren't this dumb
    and it's not like some dude from Texas decided to go to Hong Kong to drop a hammer on the HK police
    that would be also dumb

    I've never seen peaceful Hong Kong protestors with hammers
     
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  4. FranchiseBlade

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    I'm not talking about being left or right. I don't mind videos at all. I was just curious if you were anti - Chinese Authoritarianism on principle of being against the govt cracking down against dissenters using the means of dictators and authoritarian communist rulers in general or only in some cases.
     
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  5. tinman

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    This dude was trying to take down a whole crew of feds with a hammer!

    Can you at least acknowledge this dude as dumb?

    Hong Kong protestors aren't this stupid. And actually the Hong Kong people are fighting for the existence .

    This is not the same as whatever this dude was protesting, he's not losing his rights. Hell, he's not even from Portland!

    I get you want to sway the topic away from this one particular instance, but I don't go for that man.

    It's like if you asked me about Tmac vs Utah, then you diverge to Kobe , that's not the topic.

    @Os Trigonum
     
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  6. FranchiseBlade

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    1. I don't care where he's from.
    2. If someone commits a crime the local authorities can arrest them.
    3. Hong Kong protestors used violence against authorities many times during the unrest with China.

    The peaceful Hong Kong protesters didn't have hammers but the violent Hong Kong protesters did use petrol bombs, destroyed property looted businesses much like the non peaceful protesters here.
     
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  7. tinman

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    1. He's not from Portland, this incident happened in Portland. that's suspicious to me.
    2. So he didn't commit a crime? He's waiting to attack anyone coming out of the door. It could be Bugs Bunny or Daffy Duck. Attacking someone with a hammer is a crime anywhere.
    3. Well I'm against violence. I'm for peaceful protestors.

    Do you think this dude was stupid?

    I do.
     
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    Many of the pritetesters here are fighting for their existence. I've already said that anyone committing a violent crime can be arrested by local authorities.

    Hong Kong protesters have used hammers, they also set an unarmed person on fire intentionally.

    I'm on the side of Hong Kong democracy. But like some of the protesters here they have initiated violence on unarmed people and law enforcement.

    Are you consistent or not in condemning authoritarian response?
     
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  9. tinman

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    Dude.

    my topic is this one dude in Portland for this one particular instance.

    you won't make me change that topic.

    I am consistent on staying on my topic. and you won't change it.

    You see how I have destroyed the Tmac fans and their distraction topics
     
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  10. Nook

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    John Yoo??? John Yoo?? BWHAHAHA!!
     
  11. CometsWin

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    We're talking Portland but I see your whataboutism and I have no problem with the police shutting down some lawless zone where people are being hurt. That's a lot different situation than sending in secret police to kidnap taggers. Seriously, ****ing teenagers with spray cans and Trump sends in the secret police. What in the holy hell? Just bonkers.

    If Trump had been President in the 60s we wouldn't have a country right now.
     
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  12. Commodore

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    every night these privileged clowns (oh my bad, "peaceful protesters") try to destroy the courthouse

    and anyone who tries to stop them is labeled a goon

    so peaceful






     
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  13. CometsWin

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    Live reporting from the "riot", basically a bunch of teenagers milling around, screaming, with the odd megaphone going on. Looks very dangerous, the courthouse is nearly toppled... on its last legs.

     
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    This is a poor attempt at gaslighting what we can see with our own eyes.

    Antifa already set the police union building on fire. Should the police wait until the courthouse is in flames to do anything?

    Looks like the peaceful protesters might breach it soon enough.

    Imagine finding yourself in common cause with this degenerate.

     
  15. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    You find common cause with degenerate, lying Trump every day. So... yeah.

    Yeah, we all have eyes. Dude I watched almost his whole damn video. Did you? Your video is of a guy with a bat hitting some kind of makeshift barricade? He nearly knocks the entire barricade down too, many dead and injured.

    Now THIS is a riot. Although that fire looks awfully red like from a flare. Strange.




    Here you can see police sprinting after people sprinting away. Lots of sprinting going on.




    Many "townfolk" in fear for their lives apparently.




    Now, would you say that having secret police kidnap people off the streets the last several days served as a deterrent or an inducement? Maybe we should go with renditions and black sites now? Time will tell.

    Now the burning buildings type stuff is way over the line. Some people need to get rung up for that one and I fully support that. Hopefully no serious injuries there.
     
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    Right. And andy ngo. Could he find two less reputable people to cite? I am surprised he squeeze project veritas videos in there.

    How a Right-Wing Troll Managed to Manipulate the Mainstream Media
    When a milkshake to the face brought the spotlight on Andy Ngo, politicians and talking heads on both sides were happy to take on his cause: demonizing antifa
    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/andy-ngo-right-wing-troll-antifa-877914/
     
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  17. cml750

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    We basically have federal law enforcement protecting federal buildings because the state and local will not do it and then the left claiming the federal government has no jurisdiction to do so. .
     
  18. vlaurelio

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    so option is do something illegal/unconstitutional?
     
  19. ROXRAN

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    Exactly, makes no sense
     
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    This would not be controversial if they were properly identified and were only on federal property. Instead you have unmarked feds looking like they’re in Fallujah illegally detaining people and agitating the protestors in Portland. The federal government has NO authority to enforce local and state laws, and to the best of my knowledge there is no federal law against defacement of non-Federal property. In fact, the first federal law says the people can assemble.
     
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