Trump Sends Unmarked Fed Goons to Kidnap Protesters

I’ve been to Chaz before it was called Chaz. People that think there’s something abnormal about what is now named Chaz in Seattle haven’t been to downtown Seattle. I highly doubt there is an uprising that started there that has any intention of leaving the west side of I5.

Also no mention of the proud boys and other groups that frequently travel to Portland to antagonize crazy libs with the hopes of catching something bizarre on their iPhone they can send to Tucker Carlson. Those folks on the right hold blame not just for stoking it, but also trying to gaslight Fox News people.

 

Ding!

This far-right group is trying to drag leftists into an unwinnable PR war

 

That's the funniest **** I've read on the internet today. The irony is I don't think you're joking. The peaceful left protest, have their protests taken over by the most radical element in their group and the Dem. mayors and governors abandon their precincts while telling the City's police force to stand down. Why? To bait Trump into sending in Federal troops. Then when he finally does, they cry about their beanies getting ruffled. They can't even say what they are protesting about now.

 

If you have no identification as a government agent
You should be able to be shot as a intruder or potential kidnapper
Period . .. no ID . .. means you have no authority

Rocket River

 

Baiting a fascist into being fascist. True.

 

Turns out those police were in unmarked cars, which has been normal forever, and they had police insignia on and patches. Antifa are playing this up to get sympathy and spin a Trump fascist narrative. They even lured the police out of their building to spark confrontation in order to get pictures and something to complain about to write a victim narrative.

I find it funny too to see anti-freedom posters plea a libertarian argument after railing against them since forever. Suddenly they care about rights and freedoms when their ideology is to push Marxist doctrines. Libertarians are going to let these idiots get beat because they are not true allies though. And regardless of the legality, which I have questioned for ages, many of you are late to the party and want to use libertarian arguments when it's convenient. They can sleep in the bed they made for all I care. Especially since they are ideologically and more and more in a physical sense insurgents. There are questions about rights but... I don't think people who support antifa genuinely want to have that conversation.

 

Do you know understand the concept of federalism?

And why are you ignoring the part where they have face masks on, no identification of their name, along with the fact they walk up to individuals and don't explain why they are being detained and who they are.

 

Not ignoring it but people like you don't earnestly care about these issues unless it's affecting their group/team. It's complex because these are anti-liberty movements that are marxist and I really don't feel like allying with these groups. I could if they weren't interested in tearing the country apart. There are long standing issues though with law enforcement and our rights, and to suddenly bring them up lacks conviction and it seems dishonest to me. So I'm not terribly interested in this thread beyond laughing at it.

 

You are literally practicing that sentiment yourself and you can't point to a time where I would advocate for masked men in battle suits ready for a helo raid in Marjah Afghanistan rounding up people without identifying themselves and giving a reason why they are being detained.

 

Well I'm not a libertarian. I lean libertarian. I'm an American first and it's really hard to come to terms with competing priorities like proper policing of our people or saving the Union. In this case, the debate that people have put off for years, will have to wait until we put the fires out. So yeah I don't care if terrorist Antifa shitlords get 10 or 15 years and not let out. Lock them up, throw away the key, and let their lawyers argue about their rights.

 

BTW the real issue is not rights here. It's leftists panicking that the riots will dry up because their terrorists will start getting 10 to 15 years and the feds WON'T let them off those charges like democratic run local systems. Those of you beating off to this... this is the rude awakening I referred to earlier. The soy-laden dreams will soon become a nightmare for these Che Larpers as many get too scared to riot and you'll see it completely finished save for the most insane. In fact those insane one's may take it further if they lose their public "protest" cover, which is just a shield for their terror activities, and that's why the feds may need to get those more extreme ones first.

 

No where here have you justified having a masked group of fully kitted out men who look like they can do a helo incertion into Helmand Province grabbing people without identifying who they are and why they are detaining someone nor have you addressed the federalism aspect where the governor does not want federal secret police(yes they are the very definition of secret with no name tag and face masks and not identifying who they are) roaming their streets.

And like usual you will be unable to form an argument without using labels.

Instead of using arbitrary terms like "terrorist" or "Antifa" just describe them with the actions they've done such as vandalism. "Terrorist" is a meaningless term today. All it means is "a group of people I don't like".

Now try to defend these secret police without using terms like "Antifa" or "terrorist" and instead replace those terms with actual actions they've done AND (this is important) link those actions to the the people that those secret police grabbed specifically.

It's very simple. You think vandalism constitutes deploying secret police and detaining people without explaining why they are being detained. End of story. Period. Fini.

And you are trying to justify it by using labels. Replace those labels with actual actions.

 

Actually I didn't justify it. I even admit there is an issue. I just don't think you or others really give a **** about that and if it was anyone else, you'd be silent.... and that those being knapped up can have their lawyers deal with it. I am sure they have those fees paid for and I would love to see any unconstitutional law get challenged. So I'm ok with some little shitlord terrorist paving the way for our liberty.

Also these are terrorists. You just want me to use your labels because they are convenient and you want to control the conversation in a positive direction to your "team". And you are over simplifying what I say to suit your needs. You can't prove he is just vandalizing as well. You are the type who basically wants to rewrite EVERYTHING with labels mind you, in order to win an argument. Somehow you still complain about labels too which is funny, while you use labels. Not sure why "labels" are bad as well. I think labels are fine and you just can't deal with reality.

 

The person who uses labels rather than just describing the actions said people have done is the person who wants to control the narrative rather than discuss the issue.

Again, do a simple test run. Try to justify these actions without using labels and just using actual actions.


And you really have nothing to base your claim that I only care because it's "my side". People who vandalize are on "my side".

Labels aren't fine when they are used as an excuse to not have a nuanced discussion such as yourself.

 

The actions of a person makes them what they are. You're point is really weak. Also you routinely are trying to control a narrative and that's your goal here. It's clear. You're just spinning your own tactics onto me because you're projecting and this is the only thing you know.

And I have dealt with you and others and that's what I base my claim on. I know you are far left and you are without a doubt cheering this stuff on. And you're actively covering for their actions and trying to spin the victim narrative for sympathy to your cause.

 

If you think I'm far left what does that make someone who wants total public ownership of all property? What do you call people who don't believe in the concept of private ownership?

You are incapable of having a nuanced discussion without labels. It's plain and simple. You'll justify whatever actions by using labels. You'll refrain from a discussion of actions because tangible actions and events don't carry your water. It's labels that do. You believe merely calling something Antifa terrorists is enough to have a justification for secret police. You won't go anywhere beyond "they are Antifa terrorists" as your excuse. There is no underlying nuance to support your argument.

 

more peaceful protesters peacefully protesting

 

You see what you are doing here right? You use anecedotel videos to claim that there are no peaceful protestors. Pelosi never said that looting and rioting does not exist.

Also if you look at video footage of the secret police, they walked up to and detained people who were not commiting any crimes. So we have no clue why they were detained in the first place.

 

Lol control f and the heat map has you talking "marxist" more than anyone. funny more than pathetic! This is better comedy than streaming! Keep posting!!

Its not 1955 of the red scare. Its over man no one is falling for it.
Also it looks even more silly when all of usa knows trump is an agent of russia.

You can call them all that you want its amusing how futile you look ..keep posting your posts are so ridiculous man thanks for helping biden. Drinking game take a shot when you say antifa or marxist.

Now its moms too that are marxist?
"'Wall of moms' shields protesters as demonstrations continue in Portland" https://twitter.com/i/events/1285101782641737728?s=09

Moms chanting names of people killed by police