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Trump picks Colo. appeals court judge Neil Gorsuch for Supreme Court

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  1. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    I was trying to figure out what case this case was so I googled the quote and first bunch of links were just conservative blogs. They didn't link to what case it was. Do you know what case its referring to? or what the ruling was about?

    Its a case about jurisdiction. It was a 7-2 case. The only other guy who agreed with him was Clarence Thomas. The case is perry vs merit.
     
  2. calurker

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    Excelsior! How is the sound bite related to the case again?

    https://www.oyez.org/cases/2016/16-399

     
  3. Commodore

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    @Commodore why are you so against Kennedy? He wrote the majority opinion in Citizens United and sided with the majority in Heller. Both of those are landmark cases that would seem to be in line with your views.

    Or is this just because you want him to retire ASAP and have President Trump appoint another justice?
     
  6. Commodore

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    Kennedy has terrible opinions not tied to the Constitution (he invented a nonexistent right to dignity for his gay marriage decision for example)

    that I agree with some policy outcomes is irrelevant

    he's the closest thing to a monarch we have in this country, unmoored from any accountability to the people or the Constitution, led by his own moral compass rather than the law (and he aint retiring, he's drunk with that power)

    and let's not forget his most damaging decision, Kelo vs New London (where he ruled eminent domain could be used to seize private property from one citizen to give to another private party)
     
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    Got it, thanks for the clarity!
     
  8. Commodore

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    what Kennedy should have to answer for

     
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    LOL. When folks don't like a supreme court justice, it's because they don't like their opinions. It has nothing to do with constitutionality, just being upset that one's worldview aren't being upheld by the court.
     
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  10. Amiga

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    this is along the line of bad news is fake news

    if it's not to your liking, their judgement must be incorrect
     
  11. JuanValdez

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    If bulldozing someone's house is the worst thing he's done, I'll take it!
     
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    If Kennedy retires in Jan of 2020, will you be in favor of waiting to allow the winner of the next presidential election to fill his seat? Are we going to call this the Biden, Mcconnell, Garland or whatever precedent/rule?
     
  13. Commodore

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    sure, putting the question of who should pick the next justice to the electorate is a healthy thing
     
  14. fchowd0311

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    Ya, I don't believe you. That's very easy to say now.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    Honestly it's one of the few things that could get Trump re-elected. Having another SCOTUS justice nomination up for grabs would really encourage people to get out and vote even if they didn't like the candidates.
     
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    When Obama nominated Garland to replace Scalia, conservatives were up in arms that the previous conservative justice was being replaced with a "liberal" and thus upsetting the existing balance of the court. So when Trump instead nominated Scalia with Gorsuch who had a very similar mindset, balance of the court was maintained.

    Kennedy is considered a conservative that tends to be much more of a centrist, and in fact, occasionally sides with the liberal justices, and sometimes with the conservatives. So I am sure Trump will find another center-right nominee, like Kennedy and not someone that will simply go "mega dittos" to Thomas and Gorsuch (and Alito).

    Yea... right... :rolleyes:
     
  17. NewRoxFan

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    Even healthier... simply have the USSC justices be elected positions. Surely we can't politicize the court enough....
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm not so sure they were "up in arms" about it as much as they were just saying it wasn't going to happen. Obama had no leverage whatsoever to get yet another liberal on the bench so they just said no. The suggestion was that if Obama nominated a conservative, then he could have gotten the support of Republicans. Basically that was the ONLY way he was going to get his nomination approved. It's very similar to how Reagan got Kennedy put on the bench by Democrats. He wasn't going to get a conservative past the Senate, so he nominated what has been a true neutral justice and he got put on the bench. That's the kind of compromise leaders have to be willing to make to get what they want when they have no leverage to simply enforce their will.

    If Kennedy retires in the next year or so, Trump won't have to compromise with the opposition party so I'm sure he'd nominate another conservative. It would be just a completely different situation.
     
  19. Amiga

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    of course not

    if DEM has power in the Senate, the mirror and extremist move would be to said, more people voted for Clinton and so the people have spoken; we need to wait for 2020 when a POTUS that win the majority of the votes is elected, will we allow a nomination to proceed.
     
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    The "terrible opinions" I see here are your own, Ensign.
     

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