Trump pardons the J6 Terrorists

These dumb rednecks were USED by Trump and they're too stupid to understand it. He threw them under the bus 4 years ago. Now they're finally being let out but they never would have been there in the first place if not for Trump.

 

If you don't see the complete hypocrisy of how Trump claims to support LEOs and law+order. Then, now doing what he is doing per J6 and the LEOs at the Capitol that day that were attacked. It's utterly ridiculous. The law doesn't apply to Donald Trump. He does what he wants. He really is acting like a dictator from day 1.

Now, he's bringing them into the White House. Whatever stature that was associated with the presidency as far as being "respectable" and "ethical" and even "moral" has gone out the window. This is a new low of behavior.

I'll support him when he does things that make sense. This does not make sense on any normal person's scale. Same with the Silk Road pardon. This is not the government of common sense as claimed. This is the government of Donald's sense.

Say what you want about it now. History will not look back kindly on any of this. Or, there will be two versions of history books. Whitewashing of history will be the other version. Maybe Trump can write the foreword.

 

Trump Pardons and Commutations Included Violent Offenders Who Assaulted Police Officers
https://jonathanturley.org/2025/01/...lent-offenders-who-assaulted-police-officers/

excerpt:

The prosecutors originally charged roughly a third of the cases with violence against officers. Even when you remove the violent cases, the majority of cases still included hundreds of prosecutions without violent elements. If there were to be pardons and commutations, those cases should have been the focus.

Instead, this action extended to violent cases. This included Isreal James Easterday, who received 30 months for pepper spraying an officer. It also included Daniel Joseph “DJ” Rodriguez, who was sentenced to 151 months for not only calling for violence before the riot but then attacking an officer.

It also included Thomas Andrew Casselman, who was sentenced to 40 months for pepper spraying an officer and Curtis Davis who was sentenced to 24 months for punching officers.

There are clearly others.

President Trump clearly ran on this pledge, though it was not clear what the scope of the relief would be. There were many citizens who wanted to see closure. However, polls also showed that voters routinely drew a line at those who engaged in violence.

Supporters point to the fact that both Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton pardoned figures who attacked the Capitol. However, that is no justification for this relief. Even if you believe that relief is warranted, it should not extend to those who attacked officers. Moreover, to convert commutations to full pardons for these cases would only compound the wrong. These officers fought to defend the Capitol and the constitutional process. Those who attacked them warranted convictions and punishment.
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more at the link

 

I Don’t understand why there wasn’t a list made, and these cases gone over individually?

I have no doubt there are probably quite a few people that deserved to be let out and had done enough time.

But there are also clearly people that needed to sit far longer.

 

Daniel Charles Ball, age 39, was arrested in May 2023 after being indicted on a slew of federal felony charges for his actions during the Capitol riot: “assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers with a deadly or dangerous weapon; using fire or an explosive to commit any felony; obstruction of law enforcement during a civil disorder; entering or remaining on restricted grounds without lawful authority to do so while carrying or using a deadly or dangerous weapon; knowingly engaging in any act of physical violence while carrying or using a deadly or dangerous weapon; disorderly or disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds while carrying or using a deadly or dangerous weapon; and misdemeanor offenses of disorderly conduct in a Capitol building; acts of physical violence in the Capitol grounds or buildings; and stealing government property.”

Ball, a resident of Homosassa, a small town about 75 miles north of Tampa along Florida’s Gulf Coast, was arrested by local county sheriff’s deputies after he was identified by his probation officer, CNN reported at the time. The rioters’ assault on that lower west entrance tunnel generated some of the most violent and memorable video clips of the the riot, including the moment when former D.C. Metropolitan Police Officer Michael Fanone was dragged into the crowd, tased, and brutally beaten by the rioters.

Ball was among the Jan. 6 defendants who were denied bail and held pretrial, due to the severity of the charges against him, but the legal authority to hold him dissolved when his case was dismissed.

His reprieve from the criminal justice system would be short-lived.

As first reported by Politico’s Kyle Cheney, Ball was arrested again for federal gun charges Wednesday morning, just one day after his January 6 case was dismissed.

Online federal court records of Ball’s indictment show he was charged with possession of a firearm and ammunition by a convicted felon on Aug. 6, 2024, listing his past convictions as domestic violence battery by strangulation in 2017 and then resisting law enforcement with violence and battery on law enforcement officer, both in 2021. The arrest warrant filed in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Florida was issued on the same day as the indictment, and now notes that Ball was arrested on Jan. 22, 2025. He has not yet entered a plea.

 

I agree that the J6`ers who were violent should not have been pardoned, the less violent ones I am fine with. If trump had stuck to his word and reviewed every case, I would give him a thumbs up, but once again he lied. IMO this will allow militant groups like the proud boys to be bolden to what they will do next as long as it fires up the base, he has proven he will free them.

 

Why there wasnt a list? Trump wants to create his own militia and now he has it. He wants to radical violent MAGAs out of prison so he can deploy them in situations he cant the feds.

 

I agree with this. Each person had their own story and many deserve to still be in there. Many others deserved far less time than they recieved.

 

whats incredible is that trump and people like you think these people are patriots who were being held in gulags.

 

I wish we could pass a Constitutional amendment to take away the pardon power, and otherwise limit the power of the imperial presidency as follows:

1. More restrictive term limits - only one elected Presidential term, plus whatever time served in prior term if the President succeeded another President as V.P. as a result of death, disability or resignation.
2. The pardon power only rests with Congress, via majority vote in both houses (and no veto power with the President for pardons).
3. No immunity for federal crimes, if the criminal action is brought by a special counsel appointed by majority vote of both houses of Congress (also with no veto rights to the President), and the action is brought in the Federal Court in D.C. Also, the criminal case can be brought while the President is still in power. The President still retains his/her current protections/immunities against actions that might be brought by state prosecutors in state courts, or post-presidency actions that might be brought by the incoming DOJ.
4. In cases of impeachment, the threshold for removal is lowered from 2/3rds of the Senators to 60% of the Senators (60 votes).

My thought is that we have three separate branches of government with checks and balances, but that they should not be co-equal. Congress, the Article 1 branch, should be most powerful. The Executive branch, Article 2, should be second. The Judiciary, Article III branch should be third. Additionally, Congress should pass a statute that the U.S. Supreme Court can only strike down Congressional legislation with a minimum 7-2 supermajority. Then pass a new version of campaign finance reform, effectively overturning Citizens United. Congress needs to step up and exert its responsibility as the dominant branch. We don't need it submitting to an American Caesar (whether from the Democratic or Republican party).

 

If you want to try something funny, try to talk with ChatGPT about these pardons.

I understand it can't open links you give it (or is not allowed to), but even if you copy/paste the text of the pardon from the White House website and articles about it, including the names of the journalists, etc., it will keep trying to convince you that everything you told it is a hoax and never happened.

 

Watching woke clowns in here melting down about these pardons have been very entertaining I must say.

 

MAGA logic

 

@Nook this is the only way to talk about MAGA

 

at least one lady has the conscious to turn down the pardon and admitted it was wrong of her to partook in the jan 6th event.

 

**** yea