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Trump, Miller re-stocking children's concentration camps

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Sep 30, 2018.

  1. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

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    She certainly didn't LOOK 14 officer!

    This defense always works - I advise you to use it.

    - Roy Moore, esquire.
     
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  2. OddsOn

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    In case you conveniently forgot, this same thing happened under the Obama administration, only then the media went "radio silent" and acted like there was nothing to see here.

    All this cherry picking and pandering to the media open borders narrative doesn't address the real and present danger of people flocking across our borders illegally and congress showing their true colors with this clear dereliction of duty and not addressing this problem head on.
     
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  3. SamFisher

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    In case you completely forgot Obama is not the president.

    Family separation and the ongoing horrors at the border are unprecedented in kind and scale.

    They are wholly owned initiatives of our white supremacist administration. It has the sole power to change them.

    But it doesn't, because for the coterie of sick ****s like Stephen Miller, the cruelty is the point

    "Thanks Obama" doesn't work here, go back to the dipshits on 4chan if you want a safe space where you can feel less ashamed.

    Period. End. Bye.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    This just isn't accurate. Nothing on the scale of what is happening now was happening under the Obama administration. Stop making excuses.
     
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  5. adoo

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    the media reported on Obama's practice
    • those asylum seekers who were able to prove that they're parent / guardian and child, the family units were detained together
    • for those who couldn't, the children were detained elsewhere

    contrast that w the Trump admin.
    they were targeting families w the intent of kidnapping the children, https://boingboing.net/2018/08/03/deliberate-cruelty.html

    border guards charged "less than 1/3" of the adults who crossed the border alone since the so-called "no tolerance" policy began -- but that they preferentially brought charges against parents who crossed w their children, so they could take their kids away.

    In other words, child separation wasn't the inadvertent side-effect of a zero-tolerance policy.

    There is no zero-tolerance policy.

    There is only a family separation policy, w the intent of inflicting maximum pain to the most vulnerable ones,




     
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  6. OddsOn

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    LOL get over yourself already and come back to the real world.

    There was an article just a few days ago where two Mexican priests went down to the border and view the "concentration camp" conditions described by AOC and basically rebuked everything she described.
     
  7. OddsOn

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    Dude, there were tens of thousands who were greeted at the border and whisked away to cities undisclosed.
    At least under Trump they are being held at or near the border, instead of hiding them with the hopes of slipping them into society unchecked.

    There is the same thing going on in Europe, middle eastern immigrants are heading there by the tens of of thousands and many countries are stopping them at the borders now because they see it as a huge problem and cannot possibly take them all in.

    To be clear, I am for controlled immigration, my wife is a LEGAL immigrant that I filed the papers for and paid the fee and submitted all the supporting documentation for her application.

    Just because you hail from a poor country and somehow arrive at the doorstep of the USA does not automatically give you the right to become a citizen.
    There are laws in place that are blatantly being ignored by many government officials and self proclaimed sanctuary cites around the country and absolutely nothing is being done to curb this epidemic.

    I have had the privilege ot traveling around the globe and I can tell you without a doubt that immigration laws in other countries are enforced and if you outlast your visa you will go to jail and pay a fine or stay in jail until you can find someone to pay the fine for you.
     
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    You are talking about a lot of different things.

    Thousands being secretly whisked to unknown cities with the hope of sneaking them in to the country never happened under Obama. That was never their policy.

    But that is different than separating families and locking up innocent children which has been the policy under Trump. Add to that, the fact that children are being housed in unhealthy and inhumane conditions.

    Then add in the fact that the administration is incompetent and lost track of children and their parents and have little hope of reuniting them.

    You mentioned the prospect of them becoming citizens. That is again a different issue. They are entitled to seek asylum. If they don't qualify, then they don't. Very few people are advocating simply granting citizenship.

    The issue is the treatment of families and children that are following legal procedures to apply for asylum but are still being separated and treated in these inhumane ways. It isn't about making everyone a citizen.
     
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    You know who did agree with AOC? The flippin DOHS Inspector General.

    https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf

    Read the report from one of Trumps own officials and tell me with a straight face all is well down there. Such a disingenuous attempt here to argue on behalf of Trump.

    Also- is this a new Bobby account?
     
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    They could only be whisked away if the earth was a sphere -- Science Channel says since our planet is flat we should still be able to see them.
     
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    Looks like mama's wrong again...

    It did happen and the media spun it like the cities denying them access were the bad guys instead of the fact that the government was trying to force them to house them.

    https://www.cnn.com/2014/07/02/us/california-immigrant-transfers/index.html
     
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    What? That isn't a case of them whisking thousands away to unknown locations with the hope if sneaking them in, which was your original claim.
     

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