They did not kill "in the name of Jesus" or "in the name of Christianity". Your constant comparisons between Muslims and Nazis are actually interesting, because one would expect an anti-Muslim person to come up with something like that, if at all - I would not have had the idea, as what the Nazis did is so unspeakably terrible. As you keep bringing up the parallel between Nazis and Islamists (remember, you are the one that keeps doing that): The evil of Nazism is so far unparalleled in history in terms of scale of what they did. But one difference is that it was constrained to one geographic location/nation. The evil and dangers of Islamism (bombings, "honor killings", oppression of women, beheadings, mass murders) seem to pop up in so many different places in the world which only share one common link.
only if you go north. cant go east, south or west. many of the same people who have a problem w/ it being 2 blocks away will also complain about 5 blocks. its all very arbitrary. why is 2 blocks from ground zero more sacred than 5 blocks? you worked at the wtc for 11 years and were not aware of any mosques around? ive only spent about 1 week of my entire life in nyc, but even i knew that. and its very silly to only complain about "new" mosques (it isnt even a mosque, its a public community center), but seemingly be ok w/ preexisting ones. are they not still "pray(ing) with a Quran, which preaches death to infidels"? that is one of your reasons for not allowing the community center so why is the mosque where they also read the quran ok? it certainly does. good to see you changing your mind on this issue, which was mainly media-driven to begin with. you are aware, im sure, that the 2nd biggest shareholder in foxnews is a saudi who has given over $300k to the iman who is starting the community center, right? and then fox news has been the biggest culprit in riling everyone up about it...just in time for the elections. i dont care about offending muslims. im more concerned w/ upholding the principles this country stands for - freedom of religion, private property rights and the like.
freedom of speech is a federal right. An employer can choose to fire the employee if the employer as long as he man isn't prosecuted by the law it doesn't break freedom of speech.
u can go up to about 1/2 mile south....and u can go east as well....flip ur google map just a touch and u will see....the short answer for the next time u are asked is "yes" fair question......although, right now, most, if not all the protesters have argued to just move it further away so they would look awfully silly if it was moved over twice as far away as the proposed site and they still complained nope....never saw one and never passed one (or at least never realized it)...never looked for one either congrats...you are a way better spotter of mosques than i am. what do u want me to say? because the crux of the argument is to not put the mosque THERE...AT THIS TIME...because it is offensive to some u make a ridiculous rant like this that is so not pertinant to the argument and u wonder why people try to limit your green squares? keep up the good work
I never said it was.....either way, that wasnt the question nor does it address the offbase analogy that he/she made earlier but thanks for stopping by and contributing nothing to the debate....unless of course you are like the other poster who likes to show off how many green squares u have, which in that case, good luck on hitting your next level....im rooting for you
the one that was caught on video burning pages of the quran? i dont know what that has to do w/ this story, but i will say that freedom of speech does not protect you from being fired for exercising it. if his bosses felt that his public demonstration which was caught on tape would have a negative effect on their business than they have every right to let him go. just like cases of teachers who have been fired for facebook photos showing them engaging in risque behaviors. for the record, i fully support the right of the 'pastor' who wanted to burn qurans - as long as he was not taking other peoples property and destroying it. if those people are dumb enough to buy a bunch of books just to burn them that is their business. i also fully supported the rights of south park to show muhammed and spoke out at length in this forum about their right to do so. again, i dont care about offending muslims. im more concerned w/ upholding the principles of our country.
you said... so which is it? 1 mile or 1/2 mile? nope - you would be knee deep in the east river - or at best in chinatown. yall look pretty silly right now, imo. that you are not paying close enough attention to the story. seems like someone who was as invested in this story as you claim to be would be aware that there is already a mosque 4 blocks from ground zero. you should read more. its not a mosque - its a community center that everyone can use. and there is already a mosque 4 blocks away. there is no rational reason why one would think that one is ok if they think the community center is bad. especially if they take the anti-muslim stance that you have - if you really feel the way about islam that you claim then you should be fighting the mosque that is already there. its actually so totally "pertinant". again, good to see you agreeing w/ me and others that its really not that big a deal to put the community center there. this whole issue was totally media-driven - even more so due to the fact that the #2 shareholder of foxnews has funded the iman to the tune of $300k. and i think you have green square envy - you seem to be obsessed w/ it. you have been here longer than me, have more posts...but less green squares! dont worry - you will get that second one soon!
You would be right if the company he worked for was a privately held corporation. However, he worked for a state entity, which means the state punishing him for exercising his right to freedom of speech. This makes a difference.
i dont think it would - i bet somewhere in his employment contract is a clause which states that he can be terminated for doing stuff like he did. if a customer recognized the guy from the video that would be a problem for the company. and if anything, the fact that he is a government employee should be more significant - the taxpayers pay his salary. http://blogcritics.org/culture/article/transit-worker-fired-for-burning-quran/ On the next business day, his employer lowered the boom. "Mr. Fenton's public actions violated New Jersey Transit's code of ethics. NJ Transit concluded that Mr. Fenton violated his trust as a state employee and therefore was dismissed." i am a small business owner - if i see a video of one of my employees out on a street corner burning a quran or shouting "i hate muslims" i would immediately terminate them. i dont need one of my clients recognizing them - it would be bad for business.
Again, you as a small business owner have every right to do so (and probably should, as well). I believe that is incorrect. I think he would have a good case to challenge his firing (but haven't read anything to that regard already being in progress). Considering the imbalance in an employer/employee relationship, I do not think the state can impose, even by contract, someone surrendering his first amendment rights. But apologies, there is another thread in which this case is discussed, I am the one who derailed this thread with that.
