So when Russia attacked Ukraine what moron would protest them fighting back and kissing Putin's butt every step along the way? Oh, that guy with the orange painted face of course.
Honest question? What was the solution? Kamala Harris? Complete garbage. You need to look in the mirror and identify the dems runk Newscum you'll lo@r again. Fake former republican
The free palestine movement was largely centered on student groups at universities, especially the elite universities. And maybe you haven't noticed, but they've been repressed. Once the camps were cleared, the movement was largely broken. They never found widespread support nor success, were vilified in the press, some participants were arrested or roughed up by cops, many more faced arguably more costly repercussions with school discipline (denied degrees, kicked out of housing, etc), and now Trump is deporting those he can for exercising their free speech. And schools now are taking draconian measures to make sure encampments don't return (for example, my old school, the University of Chicago, created a noise rule that, outside of the noon-to-one lunch hour, empowers them to break up any assembly on school grounds and they recently vigorously enforced it by shutting down a small rally on the anniversary of the encampment the moment it started with police threatening arrests over violation of the noise rule). So, for one, their morale is in the dumps. Their moral stand on ethnic cleansing was rejected by their supposed allies, mainstream democrats and their own universities. For two, the election showed a wholesale rightward shift not just in the executive but in Congress too. Any possibly sympathetic left-leaning official who can do anything has now lost their power to pro-genocide MAGA forces. So, any possible path to influence policy has been cut off. For three, they are being actively persecuted individually by the Trump administration and their own universities (who are in turn being persecuted by Trump to force their collaboration) on whom they rely at the most critical juncture of their professional lives. And, related, fourth, the most proximate urgent injustice has shifted from fascism and oppression in Israel to fascism and oppression right here in the United States. Before a protester can say anything to help a Palestinian in Gaza, they have to recover their own right to speak in the US. I'm not surprised that the protests are down. But it's not because it was never real in the first place. You're hoping progressives will keep submitting to the prisoner's dilemma they find themselves in and vote for the democrat as the lesser of two evils. And they will, because it is a two party system at the end of the day. But, its going to twist the nature of the democratic party as who those democratic candidates are going to be is impacted by the strength of these progressive voters who now deeply resent the democratic old guard.
If Ukraine can win, they should go for it. If they can't, they should make a deal, if a deal is in the offing. No one should protest them fighting invasion. You'll get no argument from me that Trump is a moron.
I'll say it time and time again. @Nook had a few great posts explaining what went wrong for the democratic party. If you didn't read them I suggest that you do. Running garbage like Harris and Newsom won't work. Obviously it's a small sample but look at the left on this board. Angry at the world with absolutely no solution. The left leaning people here are actually a cult and they played exactly into Trump's hand. Look at chowd. Completely lost his mind
I live in the state Harris and Newsom comes from. It's fine if they want to wall off California to Trump's attacks, but that won't fly as an accomplishment when it comes to getting elected for pres. I don't like them nor want them to be future candidates. Many are still in denial and think the old formula of resisting will work again. I guess another covid-like event will clip 47 like it did with 45, but we're scraping at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to appealing working class voters. Libs here better not hope or assume Trump flipping old Blue wall states was just a blip.
I agree with a lot of this. We're stuck with Trump for his term unless he passes. Voters realize that Harris is probably the most unlikable person ever and nobody is voting for Newsom. It would be like running Ted Cruz for president. It certainly won't but putting people like Newsom, Harris and if rumors are accurate AOC is a huge problem. I won't be dishonest, I'd vote for anyone against those three. I couldn't bring myself to vote Trump so I sat this election out. I certainly hope that doesn't happen. I thought the market situation may create an issue but I'm happy it hasn't. I guess we'll see.
I respect AOC as a Congresswoman. She's charismatic, hard working and knows how to use social media. She's someone who can draw attention even if you don't fully agree with her. That's important enough for leadership to invest in her growth. I honestly think she was suppressed under Biden and that meant she drew fire for "everything wrong" with the young progressive movement. It's like getting blamed for team failures as a bench player. She doesn't appeal to younger male voters though. She and Waltz streamed them playing videogames on twitch while shootin the ****. Good concept, but who watched? Who cared? Overall, most libs are asleep or allowed Trump fury to cloud longterm strategizing because the media hasn't received orders on the new Dem narrative. People used to knock on Fox viewers for getting brainwashed messaging beamed into them, yet here we are waiting for instructions from the mothership. Wait it out....let Trump fail from his own bloated weight...the drop in dem polling will be undone soon... Obama didn't have much to his name except his name and a strong voice. He did take enough a stand against the Iraq invasion for people to believe his hopey changey campaigning. We need people doing the same now and showing a little backbone to demonstrate some credibility for when they propose their own vision of how to un**** the greater situation. The "greater situation" isn't Trump. It's the themes and reasons voters voted in a corrupt felon again and with larger margins than the first time.
Thoughts and prayers to the current Democratic establishment. One of the well known issues they face among many is messaging. When they do something that's positive for everyday folks it gets maimed and distorted by the opposition. How do you fight that? The masses want change immediately especially Gen-Z and the system isn't built that way so what is there to be done? I don't think any of us have the answers right now we just have to wait and see how it plays out. Related: How Gen Z Became the Most Gullible Generation The almighty algorithm is fueling conspiracy theories among young people and ruining their ability to tell fact from fiction on the internet. The video starts with bold red letters blaring: “2016 Democrat Primary Voter Fraud CAUGHT ON TAPE.” A series of blurry security footage follows, showing blatant instances of ballot stuffing. The only problem: The clips actually depict voter fraud in Russia. Would you have taken the bait? A quick Google search would have easily revealed the dubious source of the video, along with news articles debunking its claims. But when researchers from Stanford studying young people’s media literacy — the ability to accurately evaluate information in the wilds of mass media — showed the video to 3,446 high school students, only three succeeded in identifying the Russian connection. “There is this myth of the digital native, that because some people have grown up with digital devices, they are well equipped to make sense of the information that those devices provide,” says Joel Breakstone, who led the 2021 study. “The results were sobering.” It’s a startling reality about Gen Z, backed up by multiple studies and what we can all see for ourselves: The most online generation is also the worst at discerning fact from fiction on the internet. That becomes an issue when the internet — and specifically, social media — has become the main source of news for the younger generation. About three in five Gen Zers, from between the ages of 13 and 26, say they get their news from social media at least once a week. TikTok is a particularly popular platform: 45 percent of those between the ages of 18 and 29 said they were regular news consumers on the app. While social media may make news more accessible, there’s also little quality control to the information on the platforms. And although people of all ages are bad at detecting misinformation — which is only getting harder amid the rise of AI — members of Gen Z are particularly vulnerable to being fooled. Why? There’s a dangerous feedback loop at play. Many young people are growing deeply skeptical of institutions and more inclined toward conspiracy theories, which makes them shun mainstream news outlets and immerse themselves in narrow online communities — which then feeds them fabrications based on powerful algorithms and further deepens their distrust. It’s the kind of media consumption that differs drastically from older generations who spend far more time with mainstream media, and the consequences can be grim. I’ve seen it happen in my own social circles, where friends in their 20s will start to regurgitate what they see on TikTok as if it is fact. My friends and I often now make it a point to ask if the “source” someone has gotten their information from is a TikTok video, and whether they’ve at least looked it up on Google afterward. The answer is usually no. Just last year, when Hurricane Helene and Hurricane Milton hit North Carolina and Florida, claims the government was “geo-engineering” the weather gained traction on social media, as people suggested that Democrats were behind the ravaging of Republican-dense areas. Beef tallow as skincare is the latest trend. If some teens next to you smell like fryer grease, they might have fallen victim to videos that claim beef fat is good for your face, despite warnings from dermatologists. The common thread in all these viral conspiracy theories on TikTok is that they are fueled by distrust of institutions — from schools to the National Weather Service to the medical establishment. And that sentiment carries over to the media: Only 16 percent of Gen Zers have strong confidence in the news. It’s no surprise then that so many young people are shunning traditional publications and seeking their news on social media, often from unverified accounts that do little fact-checking. The ramifications are potentially huge for American politics. Without some sort of course correction, a growing piece of the electorate will find itself falling victim to fake news and fringe conspiracy theories online — likely driving the hyperpolarization of our politics to new heights. Opening up the comment section. “They tend to feel comfortable relying on aggregate trust, so they’ll rely on Yelp reviews or Amazon reviews,” says Daniel Cox, a pollster who surveys young people. “This sounds like a very similar thing, right? They’re seeing what other people are saying about an article or a product and basing their decisions on that.” In the era of the almighty algorithm, however, the comment sections are often echo chambers. There are few countervailing notions there because the algorithm feeds the video to like-minded people who share the same perspective on the subject, regardless of its accuracy. “[The algorithm] helps segregate people in ways that are profoundly concerning to me,” Cox adds. “We’re not sharing the same experiences online — we’re having very discrete, different experiences by our gender or sexual orientation or politics. … Everything that you’re experiencing, you can find some kind of validation online for it.” And this is a bipartisan trend: President Donald Trump’s fans and haters are both just as likely to fall for fake information that already conforms to their worldview. Rest: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/04/23/gen-z-media-tiktok-misinformation-00287561
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The amount of ass Kissing that goes on at those Trump press performances is so cringey. His cabinet members have no shame. However, they do understand what is required of them. Constant over the top praise required 24/7.
I think Ezra Klein is most outspoken about this in his book he's selling. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundance_(Klein_and_Thompson_book) Things like housing crisis or high speed rail in California being dead for decades have mostly been a bureaucratic tar pit from our doing. That vid I posted in the other thread explained that much like Obamacare, Dems needed another full term to cement Bidens plans. That would've been nice, except Klein and others pointed out the exessive red tape detailed in... Bidens infrastructure acts. We're shooting ourselves in the foot promising labor and voters the moon and only seeing green shoots by the end of the term. The election cycle is far shorter and nastier. Navigating social media swings is uglier and presumably a young person's game...that Trump mastered.
Congratulations! You're more resilient to misinformation than 96% of the US population! Your MIST-20 results: 20/20 Veracity Discernment: 100% (ability to accurately distinguish real news from fake news) Real News Detection: 100% (ability to correctly identify real news) Fake News Detection: 100% (ability to correctly identify fake news) Distrust/Naïvité: 0 (ranges from -10 to +10, overly skeptical to overly gullible) Your ability to recognize real and fake news is great! You are neither too skeptical nor too gullible when it comes to the news
You forgot to mention....Be very active on social media...spread the message every day...then stay home on election day and hope for the best...
From that David Shor interview: There’s an argument that what happened to Democrats between 2020 and 2024 is that their voters stayed home. So what happened then was a shrinking of the electorate that disproportionately sliced off what Democrats for a while were calling the anti-MAGA coalition. How does that sit with you — the idea that Democrats didn’t lose to Trump, they lost to the couch? SHOR: It’s just not empirically correct, I would say. Generally, turnout and support go in the same direction for the basic reason that there are a lot of people who didn’t feel ready to vote for Republicans but were still mad at the Democratic Party, so they stayed home in response. If you just look at the demographics of the people who voted for Biden last time and stayed home this time, they’re generally less educated, fairly politically disengaged and much less likely to watch MSNBC and more likely to watch Fox. Frankly, they resemble the voters who trended away from us. So if you had forced them out to vote, they may have just voted for Donald Trump? SHOR: Exactly. And that does show up. If you look at African Americans, for example: Those who didn’t vote were much more likely to say that they supported Trump than those who did this cycle. It’s true that overall turnout fell in much of the country, but in the battleground states that actually decided the presidential election, turnout was roughly where it was from four years ago. And it’s clear as day that a bunch of people changed their minds.
