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Trump is a disgrace

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AleksandarN, Mar 26, 2018.

  1. Torn n Frayed

    Torn n Frayed Member

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    Oh stop. CC ruins lives, full stop.
     
  2. R0ckets03

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    I personally have no problem with an illegal being deported for a felony. If you are here illegally, you best be the most model citizen ever and stay off the police radar. Its not that hard.
     
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  3. Astrodome

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    If you are going to commit felonies as an illegal, your best US option is California.
     
  4. JuanValdez

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    I appreciate that sentiment. I wouldn't want to create a perverse incentive, though, where a bunch of foreign nationals start signing up for duty as the best way to become an American. If we stock our army with foreigners, we create our own perverse incentive to start wars because we can fight them without losing any of our own. It would be better, imo, to not allow anyone who isn't a citizen (or at least a permanent resident) to enlist.
     
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  5. Amiga

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    Legal residents, not foreigners.

    1- Our military has a problem with recruitment. Cutting off another source is going to create a bigger problem.

    2- Our military has traditionally provide incentives. Pay your way through college is an example.

    3- Legal resident can enlist today. "our own" doesn't seem to be an issue today. At least the public and our government values all scarifies without making a distinction between legal residents and citizens, to a point. We aren't about to start more wars or become less sensitive to death because (if) a higher % of legal residents are among the casualty.
     
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  6. JuanValdez

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    I looked again. My impression was that he was that he was not yet on permanent residence when he served. He was a permanent resident and after service had his residency revoked when he was convicted.
     
  7. Buck Turgidson

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    No one does.
     
  8. AleksandarN

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    Although he wasn’t an illegal.
     
  9. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    If he wasn't illegal, how was he deported?
     
  10. AleksandarN

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    His permanent residency was revoked. Also don’t think illegals are allowed to join the military maybe I am wrong.
     
  11. R0ckets03

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    I'm still not going to lose any sleep over a drug dealer being deported.
     
  12. fchowd0311

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    I don't care if you are a god damn Medal of Honor recipient, you commit a federal felony offense as a non-citizen expect major reppurcussions.
     
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    I agree, don't do the crime is the key.
     
  14. Amiga

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    Agree. But let’s be consistent and fair.

    He already spent 7 years in jail. 8 more to go. If you are going to kick him out, do it at the very beginning.

    The message I see is, we welcome your sacrifices (sure there might be self interest), but once you get in trouble, we won’t handle it ourselves (jail, mental help, whatever else). We throw you out and let others deal with you. It’s not a good message for the US and the US military, IMO.
     
  15. asianballa23

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    if he indeed came here legally, he sure failed to show the proof... otherwise, he's deportable like them daca kids. You know for sure CNN is gonna be on his side.
     
  16. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    If his residency was revoked then he has no legal status to stay which makes him an illegal. You can't just deport someone without cause.
     
  17. AleksandarN

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    They revoked it the same day they deported him. So he wasn’t illegal until the government made him so
     
  18. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    How else would he be illegal except by the laws and actions of the government? Your post is incoherent.
     
  19. cml750

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    Seriously????
     
  20. AleksandarN

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    You made it sound that he was there illegally, as he snuck in the country illegally, which he didn't. I am not defending his actions for selling coke though.
     

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