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Trump expected to end "Dreamers" program

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  1. JayGoogle

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    Yeah, but some laws prove to be stupid. Disagree?

    It was once a law that a black man couldn't marry a white woman. Would you be saying the same thing then?
     
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    Similar to 'liking' any of your posts.
     
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    Kinda like Trump's travel ban aimed at countries lacking stable government identification and passport controls?

    Or is Obama the only president allowed to set immigration policy?
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    There's shitty policy based on shitty merit and then there is pragmatic policy based on some god damn empathy. It's called merit behind the policy. Something that is missing recently.
     
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    The usual suspects are out defending this latest evidence of Trump, the racist nativist employing a standard divide tactic to keep the billionaires like himself in power.

    Most of these dreamers and their extended families will stay here for the rest of their lives and ultimately work and vote against the GOP who will wear the scarlet letter of Trump for decades.

    Voter suppression, mass encarceration, gerrymandering and other strategies will not continue to work much longer.
     
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    I see this , like the trans ban, as an attempt to control 48 hours of news coverage by the pundits saying "he said what?!?" and then handing over responsibility for another party to innact on whatever crazy thing he said, tweeted, etc., but he doesn't care it what he said actually becomes law because he has the ability to spin either way days or weeks later in either direction playing both sides. The last person holding the Hot Potatoe loses in the end in his eyes.

    Here it's a perfect way of further discrediting Congress as a way to make a point that Congress is an ineffective tool for the American people and you my voters need to trust ONLY me. He hopes they flounder here and are inneffective at saving DACA so he can say "it's all their fault".

    This is such a Donald Trump type of chicken sh&$ type of move to drop a grenade in a room and watch people fight each other playing Hot Potatoe with the grenade.

    All the while he gets the news talking about something for 48 hours that is better than the Russia investigation in his mind. He loves being provacative in any way that he can have plausible deniability 48 hours later. This is why these situations continue to be methods for him to control the news cycle.
     
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    Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals...

    Today is the day that deferment ends...

    Personally do think we need to find a more effective way to deal with this difficult topic. But DACA was a unilateral action by Obama...Trump is just putting an end to it, and congress needs to step up and put together a rational law for these individuals...Parts of DACA can get republican support, but instead of continously kicking the can of immigration down the road, we need to enforce laws we do have...Those here illegally can apply just like everyone else.
     
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    I would be ok with DACA if it was coupled with an abolishment of chain migration policies and implementation of an Australian style points system, and the construction of a barrier on the southern border
     
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    Texas DACA Recipient Dies Rescuing Flood Victims
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    The body of a volunteer rescuer in Houston who went missing last week while trying to save flood victims was recovered on Sunday. Alonso Guillen, a 31-year-old disc jockey and recipient of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, is thought to have drowned after a boat he and his friends were using for rescue operations capsized last Wednesday. Family members pulled his body from a creek on Sunday afternoon, the Houston Chronicle reports. His father, Jesus Guillen, said he had asked his son not to go out during the storm but his son insisted on helping people. Guillen was born in Piedras Negras, Mexico, and moved to Lufkin in his teens. Family members said he was allowed to remain in the U.S. thanks to DACA, which prevents the deportation of immigrants who were brought to the U.S. under the age of 16. Guillen’s death comes as President Trump reportedly prepares to end the DACA program. Guillen’s mother, Rita Ruiz de Guillen, said from her home in Mexico that she hoped U.S. authorities would allow her in the country to bury her son, but she was previously turned back at the border.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/texas-daca-recipient-dies-rescuing-flood-victims
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    For sure some laws are stupid, but that doesn't mean that you can ignore them while they are on the books. In the case of stupid laws, you work to change those laws but you still have to abide by them until you get them changed. That's just how it works.
     
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    Muslim ban wasn't ignoring any laws (supreme court agrees). DACA does. not complicated.
     
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    I always think it's hilarious when people claim that enforcing the law is "destroying families". Those who ignored the law destroyed their family, not those who enforce the law.
     
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    We could save over 100 billion a year if we just got rid of all law enforcement, so I'm glad you pointed this out!
     
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    What do u expect the Bigot to do? This is who he is.............look at his history. He HATES people of color.....unless they can bring him "green" (Money).
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    Nothing is more bigoted than enforcing the law.
     

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