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Trump Excuses the White Working Class From the Politics of Personal Responsibility

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Invisible Fan, Nov 29, 2016.

  1. Invisible Fan

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    You're a bit stuck on the details. I'm more against the notion that one group deserves more compassion than the other. More relief. More sympathy. More leniency for the same severity of the crimes.

    The common thread has been the trail of destruction across families and communities rippled through different generations.

    Do we really need to hand out an award for pointing out Black folk different than White folk?
     
  2. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    You're presenting a false paradigm. Opioid addicts typically get their drugs from legalized drug dealers and not gang members or corner dealers. The cost for those opioids in many cases is covered by insurance but additionally the white community typically has many times the wealth of people in the black community which mitigates any need for violence to pay for drugs. In 2016, more than 40k people died of opioid overdose and that's a hell of a lot more deaths than murders committed in crack cases in any year.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5844400/

    I don't know anyone who's ever been murdered for any reason, It's incredibly presumptuous of you to decide on a racial basis which people kill each other because of self-hatred.
     
  3. Nook

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    Some parts of Western Europe are more proactive about poverty and mental health. However they still have poverty issues, immigrant issues, racism and a host of other problems.

    As far as walking at night and feeling safe, I suppose it depends on where you live. I feel quite safe walking at night in most parts of the United States. For example Chicago, NYC. I feel safe walking in most parts of London as well. However just like I wouldn’t walk in the south side of Chicago, I also wouldn’t walk at night in Westminster or Camden. That doesn’t even count some of the cities outside of London where poverty is more prevalent.
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Who asked for an award?

    I didn't make this thread about race

    The point isn't leinency


    Its just a false comparison.

    So since they're legal are whire kids killing each other over street corners none of them on to sell it?
     
  5. Nook

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    It comes at a cost, but I think it is a good idea as well. The USA isn’t perfect, but it gets a lot of undeserved **** because Americans are very hard on their own country. The rest of the world generally isn’t like that. So any issues in the USA are magnified. For example racism. It is a problem in the USA and isn’t acceptable, however spend some time in England or France or Norway and you will see that people there hold many quite racist beliefs. There are fewer black people there but they certainly are not welcomed. It is why when I hear someone black say it is hard to be black in America, I respond by saying it is hard to be black on the planet earth. When I have traveled to Africa I have seen quite a few Africans racist against other Africans.
     
  6. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    They may be killing each other but it's not on street corners. As doctors and pharmacies stop giving out opioids those white kids will begin seeking elicit drugs to keep up their habits and then we may have more of the street murder phenomenon.
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    An issue with me on black Facebook is this topic. Blacks complaining about law and law enforcement differences by race in handling drugs.

    To random black friend who goes there. Im like i know you know someone we both knew who was killed selling crack.
     
  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiMhsyBvbjkAhVLRK0KHSlDAE8QzPwBegQIARAC&url=https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Bond-raised-for-accused-driver-in-fatal-shooting-13860078.php&psig=AOvVaw3QjPBgBCy5gugnuefuYdhD&ust=1567731481218402

    Black kids in Houston's version of Beverly Hills killing a black student of the neighborhood school in that neighborhood not giving a f##k

    You think people don't notice.

    Plenty of ghetto kids can attend this school i know since the 80's

    The education system tries. Get tired of yall b****ing about it
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    For a child to trust an adult it takes three years. So mentorship is a long-term investment. Not something a social worker to homes can provide. Instead, it needs to be through organizations like the boys and girls club.
     
  10. Amiga

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    Just attack poverty heads on. UBI is great at that.

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J134v09n03_03

    “The present study examines potential racial differences in the longitudinal relationship between neighborhood poverty and violent crime rates. We use iteratively reweighted least squares, a robust regression technique, to estimate race-specific effects for Cleveland census tracts, 1990–2000. The results are supportive of the racial invariance hypothesis. Reductions in neighborhood poverty appear to produce similar reductions in violent crime in white and black neighborhoods.”
     

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