Trump approve raid without sufficient intel or support

Wrong. Obama rejected the raid.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...al-team-raid-in-yemen/?utm_term=.b4dd60d9c644

 

So it's a he said, she said situation where everyone involved currently says that the plan was months in the making while some random people that were once involved said that it wasn't. I guess that means that you can choose to believe whichever of them are lying that you want.....but the wording "never specifically discussed in the White House" leads me to think that this is someone trying to make political points without outright lying. That the plan was being built for months like was originally said and that it's possible that the specifics weren't discussed while in the White House.....but the plan was discussed.

Anyway, it's still a non-story.

 

Glad to see people are paying attention to the decisions we are making in the Middle East, but let's not act as if Obama was the oracle for Middle East policy. He should return his Nobel prize imo.

 

Honestly I believe this type of stuff has happened under all kinds of administrations, there are probably more than a few chefs in this stew including generals and assistant communications advisors.

 

This is true. We'll find out the truth in a year or so when one of the guys involved publishes a book about it (only halfway kidding).

These things are inherently risky (they could have easily bombed the entire compound but they wanted to collect intel), you have to trust the military and the civilian leadership that these ops are worthwhile. Sometimes you find out later that it was ****ed, it's not as publicized when they are successful.

 

Who exactly? The media has been in the habit of completely making crap up an attributing it to nameless "sources". Can't give them any credibility.

 

Sorry to hear it.

DD

 

Trump's supporters, like ipaman, will be going to the Obama well for the next 4 years, at least when they aren't busy blaming Hillary for Trump's dangerous incompetence and his rather obvious mental illness.

 

I know that you can't see it, but in this instance, it IS relevant. The raid was planned out by the Obama administration so....yeah, it's relevant given that brain dead liberals are trying to blame the fact that being a special forces operator is a dangerous job on Trump being president when an Obama administration planned raid takes place.

Obama was still blaming Bush for things that wasn't his fault 6 years into his presidency, mentioning that a raid was planned by the Obama administration that happens less than a month into the new presidency is fully fair.

 

Trump no.1 enemy is the Media ,hard to draw a conclusion so far on about any subject

 

NON-Story? Tell that to the Family of the dead Seal. The reason why the US ramped up the Drone War is because Obama didn't want to risk US servicemen and women's lives needlessly.

 

The operator did his job.....it's a dangerous job and sometimes they die. Again, this is nothing more than a lazy attempt to score political points due to the raid which was planned by the prior administration ended up having one operator killed. I mean, we've had 4 die in the last 2 years just training to be a SEAL. Like was reported by numerous outlets, the ONLY reason this raid happened under Trump rather than under Obama was due to the lunar cycle not giving them a window before Obama's term was up. One SEAL dying in a raid really isn't a story even if it sucks that someone died. I mean seriously how chickenshit has the US gotten? ONE death in combat is supposed to be news?

 

I get that. All that matters is "was this worth it"?

Do you think so? I have no idea yet.

 

Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure what targets they eliminated and what intelligence they were able to gain. I'm just saying that it very well could be, and I wouldn't bash Obama for authorizing the mission if the lunar cycle gave them a window before Trump was sworn in.

If all they got was low level AQAP members and no quality intelligence was gathered then it likely wasn't worth it, but it really does happen sometimes.

 

I'm not sure we ever will know, and that's sort of o.k. with me. I have no problems with covert operations or drone strikes when they are appropriate.

 

Yeah he just needlessly killed non-Americans. You value party over human life.

 

Benghazi.

 

The Outrage Machine started with Clinton, then it went to Bush, then to Obama, and now to Trump. Maybe, both sides will get tired of Outrage all the time and stop making big deals out of whether a President saluted a Marine or not, number of vacation days, thinking "clinging to guns and religion" is an evil statement, whether or not Jewish people were mentioned in a statement, etc. Enough with the nonsense already.

 

Yemeogadishughazi?